Sunday, January 25, 2015

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] How To Play DVD In Ubuntu 14.04

 

There is some good information here from Loyal and Scott. What I would add is that the LTS versions, which come out every two years in April and will have even year numbers and the .04 designation for April (eg. 15.04 which comes out this April will not be LTS, but 16.04 coming out next year will be LTS), have five years of support. The upgrade path is from LTS to LTS. In other words you do not have, nor should you, install the intervening releases. You can upgrade directly from 12.04 to 14.04 without installing any of the versions ending in dot ten. That reduces risk and work.

Conversely the versions ending in .10 and odd years ending in .04 have only nine months of support and you must upgrade every six months. This gives you a more cutting edge distribution, but with increased risk and workload. The choice is yours. You can switch upgrade paths once you have an LTS version installed.

The risk mentioned is not huge. It just means that at worst you may have to re-install instead of upgrade should complications arise. This is a slight risk in all upgrades in any operating system and it is rare in Ubuntu any more, but it is still a risk. You can mitigate risk by sticking with the main repositories and not installing outside packages or adding sources.

To complicate things further, Linux Mint uses a different version numbering system and in the future will only have LTS releases with Backports enabled to give six month improvements to some packages. That is a good thing, IMO, because upgrading Mint is a messy and complicated thing for newbies, compared to Ubuntu, because it offers no upgrade distribution tool.

Different users have different needs. Some prefer a slower pace and others thrive on a faster pace. Most enterprise users prefer LTS because it gives them longer support with more predictability. Both LTS and other releases are equally tested and stable. There is more change in both the distribution and for the user in the six month releases. I like the latest and greatest so I prefer the six month release upgrade path.

Roy


On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:29 AM, "Loyal Barber loyal_barber@yahoo.com [LINUX_Newbies]" <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

On 1/20/2015 9:34 AM, 'Neil Smith' neilsmith1357@yahoo.com [LINUX_Newbies] wrote:
 
 
lol that's why I said "looks like" that is a hint of uncertainty make sure you "read that more carefully" lol . anyway the premier download seems to be ver 14.04 lts, below is ver .10 plus only supported for 9 months! I would go with the premier product,  like I mentioned before probably a driver issue with .10, you probably will have less issues with 14.04 I know I have not had any issues with it and like I said tested video file and dvd movie no issues.
 
Have an Ubuntu day!
 
Neil
 
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Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] How To Play DVD In Ubuntu 14.04
 
 
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 09:24:31AM -0500, 'Neil Smith' neilsmith1357@yahoo.com [LINUX_Newbies] wrote:
> lol dude, the Ubuntu website has 14.04 as latest for desktop and server,
> looks like your running a beta and looking for support lol come on

No, he's running the latest release, not a beta. Read more carefully. :)

Ubuntu's numbering system is year and month. 14.04 is from April, 2014,
and the latest is 14.10 from October of last year. However, 14.04 is
what's called LTS, Long Term Support, meaning it will be supported for a
few years--the ones that aren't LTS are only supported for their more
typical life cycle, not sure how long that is.

The first user created is in the sudo group. It allows you to run all
commands as if you were root.

--
Scott Robbins
<snip>
To each his own.  However, to call 14.10 a beta is wrong and you know that.
To recommend not running that version in favor of the 14.04.1 LTS version is
a fine idea but you said beta for 14.10.  BTW, just because an active version
is less in version number than the current release is at best delusional.  That
is how Debian Stale works.  However, unless I am wrong, Ubuntu 12.04 is
an LTS release that is still supported by Canonical.  Does that mean that the
user should use the 12.04 in lieu of 14.10 or 14.04.1?  Not at all.  If it was a work
computer and I were to use Ubuntu, I would use 14.04 because of the LTS.  For
my personal desktop I would use 14.10 without hesitation.

Loyal


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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] How to Install The Latest VLC Release in Ubuntu 12.04 - OMG! Ubuntu!

 

You do not need to use the terminal. You can edit sources lists, install packages etc from GUI applications like Synaptic or Software Centre. Use the search function to look for the package in question instead of typing into a terminal.

Almost all things in Linux can be done in two ways, commandline or graphical. Most advice will involve the commandline because most mentors are old school, but that does not mean that it is the only way or the best way for everyone. When requesting help specify that you want graphical help.

If your computer messes up, though, sometimes the only way to fix it is through the commandline. Even, then you can often just cut and paste commands and don't really have to know what you are typing or pasting.

Roy


On Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:18 AM, "Gene Henley mhenley2@verizon.net [LINUX_Newbies]" <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/install-latest-vlc-release-ubuntu-12-04

Are these people cry babies? Newbies may find it difficult to understand WHY
VLC requires terminal fiddling. Is there a BETTER way? If so, why not?
Several forums address the reality of VLC video issues by giving work
arounds,
and I am grateful,but wouldn`t it be a bit more productive to address
the fact that
there ARE issues in VLC as to why these issues are there? In other
words,whose job
is it to fix them in the distro before issuing the distro? Is this
dared to be questioned?
Right now, after countless hrs of messing with VLC in various distros
in various computers
(At least 10 including Dells Compaqs and AsRocks,only one has come up
issue free with
VLC. Ubuntu is free. I use the ONLY computer whichworks well in all apps
I installed
INCLUDING VLC. It`s an AsRock. I have no clue as to why I can be so
blessed as to have
ONE computer that works so well in Ubuntu.
Sigh. I pray I haven`t strained the patience of anyone to the point of
untimely departure
from this life. Shame on me if I have. Please know , I implore you. I am
grateful for the advice
i`ve received. Should I have been determined to become proficient in
terminal,perhaps
I`d have had this AsRock working so well much quicker. Woooohoooo. It
does everything I
want. Don`t ask me how. I don`t know. Burning
disks,email,browsing,forums,business,printing,
etc. I have no complaints. I will give this AsRock a hug. It works well
in 14.10 after being UPGRADED
from 14.04.1. Should we inform the programmers? Would it do any bloody good?
Oh well. Patience is my virtue. I am determined to scrap
Microshaft and go onward with
using only Mac and 64 bit Linux boxes in my business. Keep the faith.Now
I can get some work done.
Cheers
Respectfully
Gene Henley



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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] "old avi"

 

VLC can convert videos and audio files.

Roy


On Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:47 PM, "'highskywhy@yahoo.de' highskywhy@yahoo.de [LINUX_Newbies]" <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
good afternoon. How can I convert any video like mpg or wmv or flv to an
old avi format? Regards Sophie


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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Linux Mint 17.1 four editions

 

Not having been part of this conversation previously, I am not sure about the VLC issues. VLC uses its own codecs and does not use those supplied by the distribution. So if you are having issues, it is not likely related to the distro, but with VLC itself. It may however have to do with the version of VLC supplied by the said distribution and compatibility with your hardware. You can try to get around this by using the PPA sources in your repositories. If your problem goes beyond VLC, ie. it happens with other applications that do the same thing, then it likely has to do with the installed packages.

For newer VLC: Open a terminal and cut and paste each line below separately.

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/stable-daily
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install vlc

Note: to paste into a terminal use the shift key as well as the traditional Ctrl+V. (Shift Ctrl+V). Then press enter to carry out the command. Or you can use the menu under Edit. Also note that you can use the up arrow to scroll through previous commands. I dislike typing so every little bit helps.

If this does not fix the VLC problem then we will have to look at other possibilities.


Roy


On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:42 AM, "Gene Henley mhenley2@verizon.net [LINUX_Newbies]" <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Roy, I cannot thank you enough!
 

I`m a NEWBIE with capital letters.
 So far, Ubuntu is very good,but I
try to minimize terminal usage. 
That doesn`t work for VLC. Many
have said they have no issues. 
I don`t doubt their belief. What 
I do know is that I have one 32 bit 
3 gig box with Ubuntu 14.10,
previously ungraded from 14.04.1
(which had no VLC video}. That 
box now has has NO issues with
 ANY app! According to my google
 searches,many have had problems 
with VLC. FACT! It appears to me that
solutions for VLC issues are far from 
being consistent.
 That discorages me not,but meanwhile
I will use this one out of four Ubuntu
boxes until I can get the others to work.
I`m in business. Time is money,but so is 
the real fact that with Linux I save because
I do not invest in all the security and upgrades
that are required with Microshaft.
(Of course,I still use my Macs.)
PS. I tried Mint and Ubuntu on several of my
Dells in dual boot. VLC STILL would not work.
  Again. My thanks to all on Newbie for their
informed suggestions.
           Cheers
                Gene Henley
        
  



On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Linux Canuck linuxcanuck@yahoo.ca [LINUX_Newbies] wrote:

 

This is a two year old article that has some still good info: The ultimate Linux starter kit for small business

If Yahoo strips the link try googling for:  The ultimate Linux starter kit for small business

Using an Ubuntu variant or Ubuntu will give you the most of everything. The biggest community. The most online support. The largest number of packages (applications). etc.

Installing Ubuntu is a good start. If you do not like the interface then install a different one, like KDE, XFCE, Cinnamon, Mate. LXE, etc. You can switch desktop environments at login. Choosing Mint is a bit more limiting. You get Ubuntu's repositories, but you cannot install Unity, if you want to try that. Using Ubuntu you get top try them all. Other than that it is pretty much the same thing at this point. That will likely change next year. 

Ubuntu is going with a new startup init system, systemd (as are most distros). Mint is still divided on it. Ubuntu is using a new display manager soon which will be unique to it (Mir) and Mint is going with Wayland. That will not affect users for a bit, but it is something to think about if you are deciding between Mint and Ubuntu. Ubuntu or GNOME leads and Mint has to decide based on that, having one foot in each camp. The gap is growing making some users edgy. Mint has a solid base and good leadership and it has not let users down thus far. Business users tend to not like change too much so I am mentioning it for that reason. We are in for a bit of flux in all distros. Using the LTS will shield users for five years. Going with six month releases makes you a bit of a guinea pig. 

Many business users like openSuSE, but it has fewer users, less support and fewer package choices. However, it is a solid environment. Just be warned that it is a different beast from the Debian derivatives, like Mint and Ubuntu. It uses a different package management system (rpm) and has a different admin approach. My experience is that new users can become frustrated, but experienced ones can be quite happy.

For support, Ubuntu and its official derivatives are tops. They release a new version like clockwork every six months. Mint is about a month behind and their versions will only be LTS releases. But LTS is probably best for business. For the *buntu's that means version 14.04 and do not upgrade till 16.04. The intermediate versions require six month upgrades or you lose support after nine months. That can be daunting for newbies. I am not sure what the Mint equivalent of 14.05 is as I do not use it. Debian would also be a worthy choice, but it is not newbie friendly.

For documents you have lots of choice from OpenOffice.org to GoogleDocs to Evernote, etc. There is lots of cloud support and many backup choices. Security is built in with Linux. Use a strong password and do not waiver in using it. Then you do not need all of the anti-this or that as you do in Windows. 

Ask lots of questions and when you do provide as much information as possible.

Good luck!

Roy




On Monday, January 19, 2015 11:32 AM, "Gene Henley mhenley2@verizon.net [LINUX_Newbies]" <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
As I understand it, there are four editions. I have been advised to" Try different editions and distros and settle on that which" you like best."
   Mmmmm. I would,except that I defer to experience. What I react to as "like" may not be the best for business. So, I respectfully defer to
those that know more than I. Again. I am in business in home office, planning to use several work stations. I freely admit my lack of 
experience.That`s why I post in "Newbie",and why I will respect and analyze answers to my questions. I have tried Zorin,Mint,and Ubuntu 
on a limited number of computers. This is no hobby. I`m serious. I think I`ve found the place for info.
                       Thanks
                            Respectfully
                             Gene H
                      

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Saturday, January 24, 2015

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Lost Serial Port?

 

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 12:57:12PM -0800, chad@tharasix.com [LINUX_Newbies] wrote:
> > > Doesn't Newbies top post by default? I think they only have one, very
> > > overworked mod.
> >
> > AFAIK they don't have moderation though ;-) And the rules of
> > netiquette are a bit more relaxed here. But I've earned my Linux
> > Curmudgeon status at the ripe old age of 40 anyway ;-) being from the
> > school of USENET.
>
> I'm still moderating this group, though my main concern is to keep spam off the list. It's been a long time since I've moderated the content of any discussions here, and I'm certainly not interested in policing message format rules.
>
> Chad Martin

And we DO appreciate it being spam free Chad. Hopefully, that's understood.

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Lost Serial Port?

 

> > Doesn't Newbies top post by default? I think they only have one, very
> > overworked mod.
>
> AFAIK they don't have moderation though ;-) And the rules of
> netiquette are a bit more relaxed here. But I've earned my Linux
> Curmudgeon status at the ripe old age of 40 anyway ;-) being from the
> school of USENET.

I'm still moderating this group, though my main concern is to keep spam off the list. It's been a long time since I've moderated the content of any discussions here, and I'm certainly not interested in policing message format rules.

Chad Martin

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Friday, January 23, 2015

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] How to Play a DVD in Ubuntu · How to Ubuntu

 

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Scott scottro@nyc.rr.com
[LINUX_Newbies] <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 06:28:41PM -0500, J dreadpiratejeff@gmail.com [LINUX_Newbies] wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Gene Henley mhenley2@verizon.net
>> [LINUX_Newbies] <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> > I applaud your honesty. I also defer to your experience. My take on Ubuntu and other distros is
>> > should one want to get all the apps to be productive for ones wants in using Ubuntu,then the
>> > terminal usage is not just nice to have,but NECESSARY. I wonder. How many,including yours truly,
>> > are wound through the wonderful world of installing apps before they have the grass roots knowledge
>> > to go systematically through the preliminaries of what a real NEWBIE is?
>>
>> Not at all... you can do most things via GUI, I'll just put on my smug
>> superiority face and say "Real users use the terminal, harumph" :)
>> Scott will appreciate the humor in that.
>
> By the way Gene, Jeff is probably the best person to help with Ubuntu on
> this forum. :)

I don't know that I'd go that far... like I said, these days I focus
mostly on cloud and server. Though I did spend the first three years
of my stint here doing a good bit of desktop QA and certification
work. But servers are just easier. So much nicer when you don't have
to worry about things like NetworkManager or PulseAudio or desktop UI
issues or which graphics card uses which driver... ugh...

And unlike SOME distros, we have a proper server distro with no GUI to
suck up resources.

> I've set up a couple of users with variations of Ubuntu, but I did the
> setting up so that they wouldn't have to.
>
>>
>> Last time I set up a DVD player on Linux, I had to find the source
>> code for libdvdcss and manually hack/compile it, install it and then
>> get the players to work. Somewhere I still have the hard-copy of the
>> dvdcs

that should have been DeCSS.c, it was printed on nice cardstock,
suitable for framing.

> There is a libdvdcss package I think. In Fedora, which I use more than
> Ubuntu, there's a repo that remains open soley for that rpm. In FreeBSD I
> think I just got it installed with mplayer, but I don't remember. Like
> Jeff, I don't use actual DVDs very often anymore, I tend to use media
> files.

Oh yeah, I'm sure there are .debs as well as RPMs, we just cant
provide the means to install it, you have to find it on your own.

>> Macs make everything nicer ;-) I own an MBA and love it. And I say
>> that as a 20+ year Linux veteran.
>
> I thought your degree would be in CS? Oh.....THAT kind of MBA, never mind.
> :)

My "degree" isn't even in CS... it's just "Computer Programming", I
just don't really do any programming beyond the test tool development
and such I do these days. I do a lot of hardware testing though, and
anymore, a lot of putting out of fires and paperwork.

I mentioned this on Linux@ last week, but I spent the first two weeks
of the year playing with automated OpenStack deployments for both
standard and High Availability modes. HA was pretty interesting to
play with, on a small cluster of 12 servers. Last time I really dug
into automated OpenStack deployments we had 75 nodes to work with on
some really cool hardware (look up the SeaMicro SM15000).

Now off to bed.

Cheers,
Jeff

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