Sunday, January 31, 2010

[LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Group & Linux

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "loyal_barber" <loyal_barber@...> wrote:
>....you might find those that say that Mint is too much a
> newbie distro, I am here to tell you that Mint is for those who
> just want the distro to be easy and to work.
>
> Loyal
>
And there's nothing wrong with that, right? One can always get out and play under the hood when one wants to.
Mark

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Group & Linux

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Scott <scottro@...> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:16:39AM -0000, Darksyde wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "sue_in_al" <sdp30564@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Since then I have heard that Mint is better than Kubuntu. What is the consensus here.
> > >
> > > I would like to give it a try, but as of yet I have not been able to create a bootable cd. Kubuntu was on a free cd. Is Mint available on a free cd too?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Sue
> > >
>
> > I'm sure everyone else has mentioned this by now but it's terribly easy to download a distro and burn to disk, even if it makes you uncomfortable at first...don't be, just dive right in.
>
> Hrrm, I'm not sure anyone did. :) Yes, Sue, that's one thing most
> distributions now offer, a live CD so that you can test out the
> distribution without installing anything to hard drive. (Do keep in
> mind though, that a live CD will run more slowly than an actually
> installed distribution.
>
Good point, Scott! Many people might be turned off by a distro only because it ran slowly "live".
Mark

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Thanks for all the feedback about Mint & new ?

 

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 18:37, Susan Muska <sdp30564@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>From: loyal_barber <loyal_barber@yahoo.com>

>>>There are a couple of things you can do to improve your burn:
>>>1. Check the MD5 check sum on your download.  If you don't know how
>>>to do that, just ask
>>>2. Slow the speed way down
>>
>>>Usually works for me.  Most burners always select max speed and I
>>>find that rarely works correctly.
>>
>>>Loyal
>
> Ah, I bet it was the speed cause I just used the default. I did check the MD5 on all my attempts.
> Thanks
>
> Sue in AL

Sue, Loyal,

Another thing to look at and consider as well. The brand of disks you
have. I've found, over the years, that the cheap and off-brand disks
are usually crap. In my own experience, I've seen as much as 40% of a
100 CD spindle be bad. FWIW, I only buy name brand, high-end media
these days (meaning Sony, etc, not the generic stuff that costs far
less) and have had MUCH more success with burning disks.

Add to that Loyal's suggestion of reducing the burn speed and you
should be good. I usually run mine about 1 step below max for the
drive or disk, and using quality media, I've not had a bad burn in a
long time.

Also, one other aspect to consider is the quality of the drive itself.
Cheap drives will be more prone to bad burns and even being unable to
read good burns on cheap disks.

HTH,

Jeff

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Thanks for all the feedback about Mint & new ?

 

>From: loyal_barber <loyal_barber@yahoo.com>
>To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 4:50:11 PM
>Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Thanks for all the feedback about Mint & new ?
>
>>There are a couple of things you can do to improve your burn:
>>1. Check the MD5 check sum on your download. If you don't know how
>>to do that, just ask
>>2. Slow the speed way down
>
>>Usually works for me. Most burners always select max speed and I
>>find that rarely works correctly.
>
>>Loyal

Ah, I bet it was the speed cause I just used the default. I did check the MD5 on all my attempts.
Thanks

Sue in AL
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K&S Ham Radio Parts - http://sites.google.com/site/kshamradioparts/

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Thanks for all the feedback about Mint & new ?

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Susan Muska <sdp30564@...> wrote:
>
> OK, I'll try again to create a liveCD this time for Mint. While I followed the directions for several burners and understand the difference between copying a file verses an image. I would always get an error when trying to boot from the disk. Good thing I have a big stack of blank CDs. ;o)
>
> As a newbie would someone please explain the following terms to me? Perhaps how they relate to similar parts of Windows?
> distro
> KDE
> Gnome
>
> Thanks,
> Sue in AL
> K&S Natural Farms Mercantile - http://stores.ebay.com/K-S-Natural-Farms-Mercantile/
> K&S Ham Radio Parts - http://sites.google.com/site/kshamradioparts/
>

There are a couple of things you can do to improve your burn:
1. Check the MD5 check sum on your download. If you don't know how
to do that, just ask
2. Slow the speed way down

Usually works for me. Most burners always select max speed and I
find that rarely works correctly.

Loyal

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Thanks for all the feedback about Mint & new ?

 

Hi Sue,
Distro - short for Distribution - refers to the various versions of
Linux as in Mint, Ubuntu, Mandriva etc. etc.
KDE - K Desktop Environment - one Desktop Environment or Window Manager
Gnome - GNU Network Object Model Environment - An alternative Desktop
Environment
KDE and Gnome are the two major graphical interfaces. Each has its own
advocates and advantages. Much of this is about personal choice. Ubuntu
has the Gnome interface as standard whereas Kubuntu uses KDE. Mint has a
version of each.
Hope this helps.
Frank
>
>
>
>
> As a newbie would someone please explain the following terms to me?
> Perhaps how they relate to similar parts of Windows?
> distro
> KDE
> Gnome
>
> Thanks,
> Sue in AL
>
>

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Thanks for all the feedback about Mint & new ?

 

Distro is short for distribution, KDE and Gnome are two versions of the
GUI (Graphical User Interface).
Bruce
Susan Muska wrote:
> As a newbie would someone please explain the following terms to me? Perhaps how they relate to similar parts of Windows?
> distro
> KDE
> Gnome
>

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[nslu2-linux] Re: Compiling libtorrent in QNAP 509 Pro

 

I tried that, but no luck. I am including the Putty log file, please have a look:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K236C7GQ
or
http://rapidshare.com/files/344045554/putty.log.html

Thanks.

>
> Try put /opt/bin at the front of your PATH, at least for the compiling session. I suspect busybox /bin/awk is getting in the way.
>
> To be able to compile libsigc++, you might want to "mv /opt/lib/libstdc++.la{,.bak}" as root (admin on QNAP).
>
> -Brian
>

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[LINUX_Newbies] Thanks for all the feedback about Mint & new ?

 

OK, I'll try again to create a liveCD this time for Mint. While I followed the directions for several burners and understand the difference between copying a file verses an image. I would always get an error when trying to boot from the disk. Good thing I have a big stack of blank CDs. ;o)

As a newbie would someone please explain the following terms to me? Perhaps how they relate to similar parts of Windows?
distro
KDE
Gnome

Thanks,
Sue in AL
K&S Natural Farms Mercantile - http://stores.ebay.com/K-S-Natural-Farms-Mercantile/
K&S Ham Radio Parts - http://sites.google.com/site/kshamradioparts/

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Group & Linux

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, J <dreadpiratejeff@...> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 06:26, Scott <scottro@...> wrote:
> >>   I'm sure everyone else has mentioned this by now but it's terribly easy to download a distro and burn to disk, even if it makes you uncomfortable at first...don't be, just dive right in.
> >
> > Hrrm, I'm not sure anyone did.  :)  Yes, Sue, that's one thing most
> > distributions now offer, a live CD so that you can test out the
> > distribution without installing anything to hard drive.  (Do keep in
> > mind though, that a live CD will run more slowly than an actually
> > installed distribution.
>

I just had to jump in... I keep a version of Mint installed and updated on my computer. I still consider myself new to Linux, even though I have been at it for over 3 years. I came along to computers late in life and there is a lot that I don't grasp. Anyway, back to Mint. IMO Mint 8 Gnome is a great distro. I prefer KDE over Gnome but it was no problem installing some of the have-to-have KDE applications to the Gnome version. I don't use Mint on a daily basis but if I mess up my main distro then I fall back to Mint. It just works.

Harold

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: having trouble Im a newbie Debian 5.0 and ubuntu 9.10

 

see below

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "mjh96002" <mjh96002@...> wrote:
>
> 1. and this is on both debian and ubuntu and xubuntu as to remember, I cannot download anything, it comes in on an TAR file and I extract it like you dowith Win RAR on xp and I cannot get it to set up and install on my PC. I dont understand all I see is files of stuff rather than setup. i have no I dea what i am doing. This is the problem I get with not having sound on my ubuntu. but yets my sound card is compatible with debian and xubuntu.
>
> Also Have trouble on debian with flash player, again same issue with downloading and even of flash player is compatible with debian.
>
> any thoughts ?
>
> thanks
>
> Mark
>

This is one of the biggest hurdles for users coming from Windows, so
know that you are not alone. Also, I have much good news. In
Windows, the model for adding software goes something like this:
1. Find software on the internet
2. Download Software
3. Unzip Software
4. Install Software
5. Hope to God you didn't just infect your system with a virus
or trojan

In Linux, we have come a lot further than that model. In Ubuntu
in specific, you have an administrative option called "Synaptics
Package Manager." Load that, and do a keyword search for what
you need. Need the game Doom? You put "doom" in the search
criteria and viola it is there. Now check the box to the left
of the software you need. Ubuntu will then go get it, download it,
and install it for you. You won't have to worry about virus and
trojan as Ubuntu people have already checked this software. Pretty
cool, huh?

As far as drivers, that is another Administrative option called
"Hardware Drivers." This little application detects, downloads,
and installs proprietary drivers to make you system work.

One more suggestion. Since you are coming from a Windows environment,
Give Linux Mint a try. It is not nearly as big a stretch as even
Ubuntu for a newbie coming from Windows. It is based on Ubuntu but
comes with things like Flash preinstalled. Also, and this usually
occurs on the second boot, it will display a little message telling
you their are proprietary drivers available for your system. Just
choose to "enable" them from the "Hardware Drivers" application.

Good luck. BTW, when you get into Synaptics, search for "flash."
You will find one that is called "non-free." Install that one.

Sincerely,
Loyal

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Saturday, January 30, 2010

[LINUX_Newbies] having trouble Im a newbie Debian 5.0 and ubuntu 9.10

 

Umm, how are extracting the tarball, you mentioned WinRAR? To extract a tar
file I would use a command at the terminal like: tar -xzvpf somefile.tar.gz

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[LINUX_Newbies] having trouble Im a newbie Debian 5.0 and ubuntu 9.10

 

1. and this is on both debian and ubuntu and xubuntu as to remember, I cannot download anything, it comes in on an TAR file and I extract it like you dowith Win RAR on xp and I cannot get it to set up and install on my PC. I dont understand all I see is files of stuff rather than setup. i have no I dea what i am doing. This is the problem I get with not having sound on my ubuntu. but yets my sound card is compatible with debian and xubuntu.

Also Have trouble on debian with flash player, again same issue with downloading and even of flash player is compatible with debian.

any thoughts ?

thanks

Mark

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Re: [Java] How to trim unneeded classes from JAR

 

Hello,

Actually, the project is several megabytes in size and I am using
webstart. The concern is not so much the loading of classes from the
JAR file, but the downloading of the JAR file from the web.

Take care
Oliver

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Java Guy <javaguy@midnightmusic.net> wrote:
> Oliver,
>
> Unless you have a JAR file that is several megabytes in size that needs
> to be loaded every time the application is loaded (such as a JEE WAR
> file, or the application is in it's own JAR file with other embedded JAR
> files), I wouldn't worry about it. When an application is run, the Java
> Classloaders only load the classes that are used, so if an application
> only uses 10% of the classes in a JAR, then only 10% of those classes
> will be loaded. This is unlike the library systems of C, C++, etc.
>
> Even if you need to worry, as in the exceptions listed above, there are
> ways around the problem.
> 1) If it's a JEE/J2EE application, place extremely large JAR files in
> the application server's shared LIB directory. Then, applications will
> only load what they need.
> 2) If this is a stand-alone application in it's own JAR file, explode
> the JAR and adjust the classpath to reference all classes (the base of
> the .class tree, plus all .jar files). Once again, this will cause the
> classloader to only load what it needs.
>
> -Java Guy
>
>
> Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am participating in a large software project that features a large
>> codebase from which multiple applications can be build. At least one
>> of those application uses only a small fraction of the code, but
>> finding out which classes are needed and which are not would be too
>> cumbersome to track manually. Is there a tool that, given the main
>> class, can trim unneeded classes? Thanks!
>>
>> Take care
>> Oliver
>>
>> --
>> Oliver Ruebenacker, Computational Cell Biologist
>> Systems Biology Linker at Virtual Cell (http://vcell.org/sybil
>> <http://vcell.org/sybil>)
>> Turning Knowledge Data into Models
>> Center for Cell Analysis and Modeling
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>>
>>
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[nslu2-linux] Re: Compiling libtorrent in QNAP 509 Pro

 

Try put /opt/bin at the front of your PATH, at least for the compiling session. I suspect busybox /bin/awk is getting in the way.

To be able to compile libsigc++, you might want to "mv /opt/lib/libstdc++.la{,.bak}" as root (admin on QNAP).

-Brian

--- In nslu2-linux@yahoogroups.com, "captainaatif" <aatif@...> wrote:
>
> Now I get this:
>
> ......contd.
> lling operator() template methods.... yes
> checking if C++ compiler supports the use of a particular specialization when ca lling operator() template methods omitting the template keyword.... yes
> checking if C++ compiler allows usage of member function in initialization of st atic member field.... yes
> checking whether C++ library symbols are declared in namespace std... yes
> checking for non-standard Sun libCstd reverse_iterator... no
> configure: creating ./config.status
> config.status: creating Makefile
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:3: S["/; s/!.*/"]=SHELL!/bin/sh%!_!# "/bin/sh"
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:3: ^ syntax error
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:3: S["/; s/!.*/"]=PATH_SEPARATOR!:%!_!# ":"
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:3: ^ syntax error
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:4: S["/; s/!.*/"]=PATH_SEPARATOR!:%!_!# ":"
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:4: ^ syntax error
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:5: S["/; s/!.*/"]=PACKAGE_NAME!libsigc++%!_!# "libsi gc++"
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:5: ^ syntax error
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:6: S["/; s/!.*/"]=PACKAGE_TARNAME!libsigc++%!_!# "li bsigc++"
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:6: ^ syn tax error
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:7: S["/; s/!.*/"]=PACKAGE_VERSION!2.2.3%!_!# "2.2.3"
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:7: ^ syntax error
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:8: S["/; s/!.*/"]=PACKAGE_STRING!libsigc++ 2.2.3%!_! # "libsigc++ 2.2.3"
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:8: ^ syntax error
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:8: S["/; s/!.*/"]=PACKAGE_BUGREPORT!libsigc-list@gno me.org%!_!# "libsigc-list@..."
> gawk: ./conf46N9qk/subs.awk:8: ^ in valid char '@' in expression
> config.status: error: could not create Makefile
> make[1]: *** [/share/MD0_DATA/aatif/optware/ts509/builds/libsigc++/.configured] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/share/MD0_DATA/aatif/optware/ts509'
> make: *** [/share/MD0_DATA/aatif/optware/ts509/builds/libtorrent/.configured] Er ror 2
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In nslu2-linux@yahoogroups.com, Robert Hammond <robham@> wrote:
> >
> > In message <hjl0sm+tgq0@>, captainaatif <aatif@>
> > writes
> > > 
> > >
> > >Thanks for the reply.
> > >
> > >Installed optware-devel just fine, but ..
> > >
> > >[~] # svn co https://svn.nslu2-linux.org/svnroot/optware/trunk optware
> > >Authentication realm: https://svn.nslu2-linux.org:443
> > >Client certificate filename:
> > >
> > >and after 3 tries ...
> > >
> > >Client certificate filename:
> > >svn: OPTIONS of 'https://svn.nslu2-linux.org/svnroot/optware/trunk': SSL
> > >handshake failed, client certificate was requested: SSL error: sslv3 alert
> > >handshake failure (https://svn.nslu2-linux.org)
> > >any help?
> > >
> >
> > Change the https above to http
> >
> > https is only needed if you want to upload anything to the svn, i.e have
> > developer access. You can down load the complete svn using just http
> > --
> > Robert Hammond
> > PGP:0x154144DA
> > 592B 0199 2D7F FC05 C4B1 0404 2258 4471 1541 44DA
> >
>

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