Thursday, June 30, 2011

[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Why set up DOS? Was: Wont boot..help

 



I've got to agree with Chris on this one, why a DOS partition?

There are actually several methods to get into a computer with forgotten/lost/changed root password:

Option 1.
Boot the system into single user mode. At the boot prompt (how you get this depends upon the boot loader used) type:

linux single

This gets you in as root with no password. Set a new password using the passwd command then sync & reboot the system.

Option 2.
Another option is to boot off a floppy or cd, mount your original root directory and edit the file /etc/shadow (from your original install of course). Open the file in your preferred editor, find the line that starts:

root:

Change the line to read:

root::::

yes, that's four colons, nothing else. Depending upon your distro you may also need to edit the file /etc/passwd. This file looks a lot like the last one but all you do is delete the 'x' that is between the first 2 colons.

Save the file/s, reboot the system and you should be able login as root without a password. Set a new password as normal.

No need for DOS to save you. :)

Cheers,
Mark K.

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>
> I'm curious how giving a partition to DOS provides an advantage over
> another linux install or a live cd? Primary partitions are fairly
> valuable if you are multibooting with windows, right? Thanks for any
> insight.
>
> Cheers, ~Chris
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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Wont boot..help

I've decided to download Fedora, Arch and Debian.

I'll leave Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on as my primary OS for the moment, just because
it's familiar. I'm adding a partition for Debian and a partition for Arch.
If I give each OS 50 Gigs, that will still leave me 150G for my data
partition. Then, I'll run Fedora from the live CD to see if I like it.

My goal is to become familiar and comfortable in as many Linux Distros as
possible. I've used Puppy and DSL on an older machine. I also used Mint for
a while on one of my kids' machines, but I didn't like it and went back to
Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.

Part of this distro exploration came about because I downloaded the most
recent version of Ubuntu yesterday as part of my computer restore efforts. I
figured since I had to re- install anyway I'd update to the newest version.
I *hate* it. I'm too attached to my standard 10 work spaces and the ability
to pin short cuts to the top and bottom panel. I hated that side scroll
thing. It was in the way, and hard to get to when my desktop was filled with
windows. So, I re-installed the 10.04 LTS and decided to try a new OS or
two.

Yvette


On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Scott <scottro@nyc.rr.com> wrote

> **
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:25:06PM -0500, Yvette Davis wrote:
> > That is very helpful. Thank you, Scott.
>
> Let us know what you decide. :)
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[nslu2-linux] Requet update mod-wsgi

 

Hi.

First, I will not speak English well.

Reequesting update of mod_wsgi 3.2-1 -> 3.3 and complied for python/2.5.6

[warn] mod_wsgi: Compiled for Python/2.5.5.
[warn] mod_wsgi: Runtime using Python/2.5.6.

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Why set up DOS? Was: Wont boot..help

 

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Martin Warren
<elephant_range@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Sorry, Yvonne.  Your Ubuntu expert gave you expert info on Ubuntu, but wasn't very farsighted, in my opinion.  They neglected to advise you to set up a 200MB DOS partition as hda1 if you're doing a multi-boot.  Dinosaur-Land has saved my proverbial ass on more than one occasion.
>

I'm curious how giving a partition to DOS provides an advantage over
another linux install or a live cd? Primary partitions are fairly
valuable if you are multibooting with windows, right? Thanks for any
insight.

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Wont boot..help

 

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:25:06PM -0500, Yvette Davis wrote:
> That is very helpful. Thank you, Scott.

Let us know what you decide. :)

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Wont boot..help

Hmm. that's not a bad idea. Set up the DOS partition and then I can go in
through there if things go wonky. Thanks for the idea.

Yvette


On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Martin Warren <elephant_range@yahoo.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Sorry, Yvonne. Your Ubuntu expert gave you expert info on Ubuntu, but
> wasn't very farsighted, in my opinion. They neglected to advise you to set
> up a 200MB DOS partition as hda1 if you're doing a multi-boot.
> Dinosaur-Land has saved my proverbial ass on more than one occasion.
>
>
> --- On Wed, 6/29/11, Yvette Davis <atlanteanproductions@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Yvette Davis <atlanteanproductions@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Wont boot..help
>
> To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 9:51 PM
>
>
> I've tried logging in as root. It seems that whatever my husband did locked
> me out of root, too. It's not recognizing my root password. I talked to an
> Ubuntu tech guy I know, and he said that at this point there is nothing
> left
> to do but reinstall Ubuntu. I used my live CD to get in and get all my data
> saved to chips. Since I have to start fresh anyway I'm going to partition
> the drive three ways-- two different Linux distros and the third, just for
> data. I'll use Ubuntu 11 on one partition, and either OpenSuse, Debian or
> Fedora on the second.
>
> Any suggestions? I want something that will force me to learn my way around
> the command prompt without being super frustrating. Basically, something a
> step or two up in difficulty from Ubuntu but still usable to a newbie
> willing to fight with it.
>
> Yvette
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Martin Warren <elephant_range@yahoo.com
> >wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Please don't take me for a Ubuntu expert, because I rarely use that OS,
> but
> > is the 'loading screen' you refer to the Ubuntu loading screen or that of
> a
> > bootloader (grub, maybe)? The first possibility I can see would require
> you
> > to use the live CD to re-install the startup files, and you would want
> > someone more familiar with the Ubuntu OS - 'cuz I'm Debian. The second
> > possibility would require that you re-install the bootloader (can be
> tricky,
> > but I could help you more on that one). Can you get far enough to try
> > logging in as root and check your user settings that way?
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/29/11, Yvette Davis <atlanteanproductions@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > From: Yvette Davis <atlanteanproductions@gmail.com>
> > « Plain Text Check Spelling[image: Change language] Resume Editing
> >
> >
> > Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Wont boot..help
> > To: "LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com" <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 12:00 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My husband tried to instal MySQL while I was gone. He says the
> instructions
> >
> > said to use the terminal to run chown-rmysql.
> >
> > When I got home my laptop was off,so I rebooted. Now I can't log in. When
> I
> >
> > try to log in it flashes the loading screen with an error message. It
> >
> > flashes too quickly to read.
> >
> > I have an Ubuntu cd and used that to check my hard disk. All my files
> seem
> >
> > to be intact. I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 on a Dell Inspiring laptop.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Yvette
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Wont boot..help

That is very helpful. Thank you, Scott.

Yvette


> >
> > Any suggestions? I want something that will force me to learn my way
> around
> > the command prompt without being super frustrating. Basically, something
> a
> > step or two up in difficulty from Ubuntu but still usable to a newbie
> > willing to fight with it.
>
> If you don't require point and click, I'd recommend Arch. It gives a
> small install, but the docs are excellent. It might seem, with its text
> based installation, and, after install, booting into a console, as if
> it's something really difficult, but the documentation is very
> good--just look at the setup guide, and it's all there.
>
> The others. Debian might be the step up, you'll have to do some
> googling, and find the instructions to get the various things that
> aren't open source. I believe it's super easy to do, but I don't
> remember the procedure.
>
> The nice thing about Arch is that it has great docs and a good forum as
> well.
>
> Fedora is pretty much like Ubuntu in many ways. The internals are
> somewhat different, but if you use the GUIs, to a non-Gnome user like
> myself, Gnome 3 and Unity seem quite similar, both aimed at the
> smartphone user.
>
> Their forums tend to react harshly to criticism of Fedora, in most cases
> calling the complainer a whiner or troll, suggesting they ask for a
> refund, or similar. Despite this, there's a bunch of nice helpful
> people, and if you ask a question, as opposed to saying, what a piece of
> junk, you'll almost always get quick and useful help.
>
> To me (and remember, this is just one person's opinion, and that of a
> person who prefers the BSDs, but has been stuck in Linux by a job
> change), Arch will probably teach you more, and really not be much more
> work than Debian. My second pick would be Debian (though if I were
> truly objective, it would probably be closest to your stated
> requirements). Fedora, as another desktop oriented distro, is, when
> working right, about the same as Ubuntu save for the fact that you have
> to add some 3rd party repos for things like flash and other
> non-opensource things.
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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to group with QUESTION

 


And I think that's a good place to end this one....

Moderation on this group is very limited, mainly to new members and those whom deliberately spam the group, usually after a couple of 'real' posts to get of newcomer moderation.

Generally, this has seemed to work quite well and the list just gets on with what needs to be done and has done so for the last dozen years (oh christ, has it really been that long!).

But then there is, very occasionally, a topic such as this where peoples egos seem to get in the way of constructive thoughts (you all know the thing - I know I'm right & even iof I'm wrong I won't admit it).

So we will leave all the off topic discussion about what is & isn't a peripheral and whom knows more than whom and just move on ok? I'm sure none of those involved really want anyone to find themselves back on the 'MODERATED POST' list.

Cheers,

MarK K.
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> Fair enough and my apologies then !
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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to group with QUESTION

 

Fair enough and my apologies then !

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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:57 PM
To: <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to group with QUESTION

>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "g.linuxducks" <g.linuxducks@...>
> wrote:
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>> And your degree in Linux is
>
> higher than yours.
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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Using Terminal Applications

 

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 02:00:00PM -0000, Gabrielle wrote:
> Greetings, I have the latest Ubuntu on a Toshiba Satellite L505 Laptop.
> I am now ready to go to the next step in learning the wonderful world of Linux. I downloaded a program called "Kismet", which works like net stumbler. So, when I downloaded it, it said it is accessed by the terminal. It also does not show up in my regular applications. I see that I have an icon for terminal and went there and tried typing in just kismet and I just became confused. So, I need a "how to use terminal for dummies", I did go through the files section first, with no success. Any suggestions of how to learn how to input and use terminal applications in an easy to follow step by step manner? Thank you, Gabrielle.
>

I'm not sure how the latest Ubuntu's unity works, but as you guessed,
you open the terminal application.

So....there you are at a command prompt. Now, typing kismet was a good
idea, and might have opened it. Unfortunately, apparently it didn't.
Many programs have some documents.

Ahhh, even though this is for Ubuntu 7.04, it will probably work.

http://www.twistedethics.com/2007/04/25/how-to-setup-kismet-in-ubuntu-704/

See if that's useful.

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to group with QUESTION

 

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:52:54PM +0100, J wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 23:48, Scott <scottro@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGyMjySyH9w
> >
> > :)
>
> I'm genuinely surprised we haven't hit Godwin's Law yet with this thread...

Well, Godwin's not on this list. <rimshot>

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Moving on

 



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> Ahh! Now I get it. The perils of reading these individually in email.
> Thanks!
>
> I agree with him then. He should not feel obliged to buy new equipment.
>
> Roy

I do too! What is 16 years of success in the grand scheme of things anyways?

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Wont boot..help

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Martin Warren <elephant_range@...> wrote:
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> Sorry, Yvonne.  Your Ubuntu expert gave you expert info on Ubuntu, but wasn't very farsighted, in my opinion.  They neglected to advise you to set up a 200MB DOS partition as hda1 if you're doing a multi-boot.  Dinosaur-Land has saved my proverbial ass on more than one occasion.

This command saves me disk space and does virtually the same thing!
ln -s /dev/null /var/dos

But I'm just a lowly Debian user.

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Wont boot..help

 

I believe Ubuntu disallows direct root login by default try su root or just sudo

For real fun figure out how to deal with visudo that way your regular user can have some more privileges by default. Means you'd have to su or sudo less. Although the sudo package is optional itself so you may have to install it.

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Yvette Davis <atlanteanproductions@...> wrote:
>
> I've tried logging in as root. It seems that whatever my husband did locked
> me out of root, too. It's not recognizing my root password. I talked to an
> Ubuntu tech guy I know, and he said that at this point there is nothing left
> to do but reinstall Ubuntu. I used my live CD to get in and get all my data
> saved to chips. Since I have to start fresh anyway I'm going to partition
> the drive three ways-- two different Linux distros and the third, just for
> data. I'll use Ubuntu 11 on one partition, and either OpenSuse, Debian or
> Fedora on the second.
>
> Any suggestions? I want something that will force me to learn my way around
> the command prompt without being super frustrating. Basically, something a
> step or two up in difficulty from Ubuntu but still usable to a newbie
> willing to fight with it.
>
> Yvette
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Martin Warren <elephant_range@...>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Please don't take me for a Ubuntu expert, because I rarely use that OS, but
> > is the 'loading screen' you refer to the Ubuntu loading screen or that of a
> > bootloader (grub, maybe)? The first possibility I can see would require you
> > to use the live CD to re-install the startup files, and you would want
> > someone more familiar with the Ubuntu OS - 'cuz I'm Debian. The second
> > possibility would require that you re-install the bootloader (can be tricky,
> > but I could help you more on that one). Can you get far enough to try
> > logging in as root and check your user settings that way?
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/29/11, Yvette Davis <atlanteanproductions@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Yvette Davis <atlanteanproductions@...>
> > « Plain Text Check Spelling[image: Change language] Resume Editing
> >
> >
> > Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Wont boot..help
> > To: "LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com" <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 12:00 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My husband tried to instal MySQL while I was gone. He says the instructions
> >
> > said to use the terminal to run chown-rmysql.
> >
> > When I got home my laptop was off,so I rebooted. Now I can't log in. When I
> >
> > try to log in it flashes the loading screen with an error message. It
> >
> > flashes too quickly to read.
> >
> > I have an Ubuntu cd and used that to check my hard disk. All my files seem
> >
> > to be intact. I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 on a Dell Inspiring laptop.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Yvette
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>
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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to group with QUESTION

 


Hitler was a man much misunderstood even in his own time, "I said I wanted a glass of juice not gas the Jews!"

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> On 6/30/2011 5:52 PM, J wrote:
>
> > I'm genuinely surprised we haven't hit Godwin's Law yet with this thread...
> >
>
> Yeah, Heil Hitler! :)
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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to group with QUESTION

 

I get that you're upset but you've no need to be.

BTW thanks for the post. It is some of the finest Internet gibberish I have ever seen. I enjoyed it thoroughly. You rock man!

I just saved it to my system as:
gibberish.txt


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> Called presumption of fact....
> <<<OK riddle me this Batman if an Ethernet adapter isn't a peripheral then
> how come I have this file?>>>
>
> Why the rude behavior ?
>
> The exact words were from me....
>
> >> The "ethernet card" is not a peripheral (add on device) as a NIC
> >> (Wireless
> >> Modem Card - slot drawer) would be such as a Sierra Wireless Card
>
> I think you introduced your self as a "rube" was it ? The vocabulary says
> "is not ... as a ...." (Clueless ? Here's a nickel someone gave me, you can
> have it back ! )
>
> [ I assume you did not distinguish the meaning is a built in ethernet as
> opposed to an external plug in wireless modem card given as an example - as
> there are printers and mobile computers and side drives and on and on which
> *are* external devices engaged via USB Ports (and Card Slots) and are the
> general accepted definition of *peripherals* which is to state the general
> accepted understanding of "peripheral" and computers are devices and gizmos
> and fun things that you can plug into a computer through the USB Port (or
> Card Slot) to interact with it for down right fun and productivity . This is
> probably what you mean a "rube" would miss, or could not comprehend, or was
> blinded in some rush to judgment to play flaming fun at groups and lists -
> what you may say a "rube " would miss in an intelligent, intellectual, or
> otherwise simple conversation between computer operators/users. Your excuse
> ? Just nevermind... you are not the type person I wish to converse with
> online. Too immature and impolite to interact. If you have been online that
> long then you know very very very well not to have engaged this nonsense
> that you have so easily done so. The deed is done. Perhaps you need to
> attend a Netiquette Refresher Course I would recommend. ]
>
> Your flames to date unattended by Moderation.....
> [When escalated, I guess someone gets banned. Good bye I will not answer the
> garbage trolling flame war you started via Personal Attack - apparently
> having tried to socially engineer me into one in a very immature way. Your
> war just ended HERE. You want the victor's flag - take it then. You win. I
> left a loser hun.
>
> # "...Here's a nickel kid go buy yourself a clue...."
> # "...So you're going to further elaborate on your total ignorance....."
> # "...Keep digging yourself in deeper rube. I've forgotten more than you'll
> ever know!"
>
> I thought such Personal Attacks were not allowed by Yahoo Group Owners !
>
> HOW RUDE ! ! ! To a new member ! ! ! (might have been here a couple weeks
> now.)
>
> gerald philly pa usa
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Paul" <pfrederick1@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:03 PM
> To: <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to group with QUESTION
>
> > So you're going to further elaborate on your total ignorance by quoting
> > Wikipedia to me now are you?
> >
> >
> > OK riddle me this Batman if an Ethernet adapter isn't a peripheral then
> > how come I have this file?
> >
> > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
> >
> > Which contains the following text in it:
> >
> > # PCI device 0x10b7:0x9055 (3c59x)
> > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
> > ATTR{address}=="00:50:da:c2:72:a5", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1",
> > KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
> >
> > Keep digging yourself in deeper rube. I've forgotten more than you'll ever
> > know!
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "g.linuxducks" <g.linuxducks@>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Your comment ....<<<as far as your eth0 theory goes. >>> is VERY
> >> puzzeling.
> >> I did NOT say any such a thing. Quoted I said....
> >>
> >> <<<>> Like ethernet is named " Auto eth0 " by default or you will never
> >> got
> >> online...>>>
> >>
> >> It HAS to be " Auto eth0 " which is capital A and then space and then eth
> >> and number zero together as "Auto eth0" . This is NOT theory but reality
> >> with Ubuntu Linux. I have tried several versions of Ubuntu and
> >> derivitives.
> >> They ALL have the ethernet dsl Connection Manager pre-set with the
> >> Connection Name as Auto eth0. Again, this is not my "theory" - it is
> >> fact.
> >> Run a Live Distro of Ubuntu Linux and you will see this as it does this
> >> ALSO
> >> on the Live Distro which is like a demo mode without installing with
> >> somewhat limited functionality but indeed has instant connectivity
> >> through
> >> ethernet with the Connection Name Auto eth0 in the in the default
> >> Connection
> >> Manager included in Ubuntu Linux.
> >> "udev" concerns peripherals (add on hotplugging Printers, Drives, USB
> >> Microphones, mobile computers, etc.) it is the Device Manager in the
> >> Linux
> >> Operating System
> >> udevFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udev
> >> udev is the device manager for the Linux kernel. Primarily, it manages
> >> device nodes in /dev. It is the successor of devfs and hotplug, which
> >> means
> >> that it handles the /dev directory and all user space actions when
> >> adding/removing devices, including firmware load.
> >> MORE
> >> Udev: Introduction to Device Management In Modern Linux System
> >> http://www.linux.com/news/hardware/peripherals/180950-udev
> >>
> >> The "ethernet card" is not a peripheral (add on device) as a NIC
> >> (Wireless
> >> Modem Card - slot drawer) would be such as a Sierra Wireless Card with
> >> Unlimited Monthly Wireless Internet subscription on the Wireless
> >> Internet.
> >> The "ethernet card" is part of the main frame if you will. (I have a
> >> computer degree in old IBM card computer monsters and like the older
> >> descriptions) - main frame as a general slang phrase used here meaning
> >> for
> >> the computer itself - with all that was built by self or included as at
> >> purchase point including desktops, laptops, notebooks, netbooks.
> >>
>

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