Friday, August 30, 2013

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] RE: Get 20$ Free

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:21 PM, <chad@tharasix.com> wrote:
> There is a moderator here, and members are put under moderation by default when they join.  This particular member had previously been taken off of moderation, so the
> message went to the group unfiltered.  The member has been put back under moderation. Trust me, if this group was unmoderated, you'd be seeing a lot more spam than
> one every few months.  I've been doing the job mostly silently for over a decade, though others have jumped in and out from time to time. Chad Martin Linux Newbies
> Moderator

Oh, cool. Never knew that and I've been on this list for a while.
Glad to see that you are there though :)

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[LINUX_Newbies] RE: Get 20$ Free

 

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On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Joe PM < jpmcsale@sbcglobal.net > wrote:
> Why is this getting accepted by the moderator?
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com , Brendan Kelly <brendan@...> wrote:
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>> Is the virus included in the $20, do I have to pay extra for that?
>>
>> On 12 August 2013 16:52, Hafiz Muhammad Amir <eng_linux@...> wrote:
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>> > Dear All Friends,
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Thursday, August 29, 2013

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Starting software twice Linux

 

Well said.  Good info for all of us.

Thanks

________________________________
From: "g.linuxducks@gmail.com" <g.linuxducks@gmail.com>
To: highskywhy@yahoo.de; LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Starting software twice Linux


 
Simple answer is yes both Sweeper and BleachBits are Linux software you can
download from the Software Repository. BleachBits and also BleachBits Root
may already be installed, depends on the distro (Mint,Debian, Ubunut etc).
You can choose what you want to clean. Each area item has a check box.

I am guessing you were not familiar with Windows security and utilities like
CCleaner. Security in general has changed to the extreme to not even
allowing cookies to remain on the system past the current session in
browser. With Windows malware these were even being broken into for
nefarious reasons by cyber crime. With more or less "hints" of very first
Linux malware and/or intrusions occurring only in very, very recent years -
this seems much less a concern but nevertheless should be.
Unbelievers HERE / take a look...
http://linuxducks.free-forums.org/viewforum.php?f=10

In security, what malware would seek especially leaning towards financial
information, in Windows is called temporary internet files. For Linux this
is cookies and browser history and other areas as recent files opened etc.
They sift data to attempt to profile a user as to whether they may be a
potential target which in worst cases ends a IDTheft and cards max-out etc.
Tracking cookies are more towards "legal" entities which lean towards
targetting users with sales according to browsing habits and even financial
visits etc.

This is why it is recommended to use a simple utility software as Sweeper
which safely deletes these in these areas where the information is stored.
Using Private Session blocks storing of most and I am sure does not block
signing into a place like you mentioned - a forum. Of course a cookie for
simple identification purposes that you are the user are necessary for these
type sign/log ins. I do not believe the Private session mode blocks these
cookies.

You mentioned FF (Firefox browser) is saving everything you are doing at
like a forum. I assume you mean when you look at History it is showing each
site you visit. Each Forum page at each new string has a new website address
(URL) which is why it is saving that in History. All browsers do that as
default. It is the convenience as you move along and forgot what website you
were at you can simply click History and click the link to go there again.
However, today that is completely undesirable and is worst than cave man
days in security and privacy. However, all browsers have Settings that allow
you to adjust or click what you do not want stored all the time.

In FF click Tools all the way up top on the Menu Bar. If that is not showing
then right click on the top bar and click Menu bar to make it show. Now
clkick Tools and Options. At Options you will see all the various tweaks to
have it perform the way you want to. Like Do Not Store Browsing History,
Change Current Homepage, Tell Websites Not to Track and etc. In Windows you
can simply do one click that deletes everything each time you close the
browser (but there are still a couple items that CCleaner is used for). I do
not believe browers for Linux have this option. It is a manual operation.
This is what Sweeper is used for.

BleachBits cleans even more than simple browsing histories and files opened
lists etc. It gets rid of orphaned junk left over files that may be present
perhaps from uninstalled softwares etc. ALWAYS make sure you are NOT using
BleachBits Root - as this may perform irreversible deletions, corrupting the
system and rendering it inoperable to where you would have to reinstall
Linux from scratch. Regular BleachBits does very, very well for safe clean
up of the system time to time. It is a full list of items to check you can
browse down to choose.

I hope this helped!

gerald philly pa usa.
http://bluecollarpc.us/
http://linuxducks.webs.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: highskywhy@yahoo.de
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:05 PM
To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
Cc: G.LinuxDucks
Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Starting software twice Linux

Good afternoon
Thank You for Email and Help.
Do Aug 29 18:36:00 2013

Am 18.08.2013 15:26, schrieb G.LinuxDucks:> Hi Sophie,
> You asked before and I don't think U got an answer, and may help clear
> some things up.
>
> If familiar with Windows and cleaning internet tracks as safe to delete
> temporary internet files with like CCleaner or manual settings in
> browser to delete each time browser is closed - the equivalent in Linux
> is a really fast simple safe clean up software of these temporary
> internet files .... it is called Sweeper.
*
Is this a software?
Where is this software to install?
For Linux
For FF?

How can I use a browser without saving pages.
Example:

Forum: www.forum.org.
And I am writing a post.
Then I go to the next thread.
FF is saving every click and page.
How can I avoid this.
Private browsing deletes the passwords.

>
> You can download that from the built in Software Repository or like
> called Ubuntu Software Center in Ubuntu now etc.
*
OK
Does this clean ff or all browsers?

Simply click Choose All
> and when you close the browser - open Sweeper and run it. Takes less
> than a second unless a bit gunked up from a longer browsing session and
> like watching You Tubes etc. Then may take about up to five seconds.
*
OK

>
> The other more thorough cleaner and widely used is BleachBits (not Root
> BleachBits - could be dangerous to use if not really experienced with
> Linux Files). This also should be available in the Software Repository
> for download and installation. There are more clean up options available
> for a more thorough clean up across the board.
*
Ok
What does BleachBits clean?

>
> I am thinking two things may be a possible culprit. One, have you
> installed a browser Toolbar?
*
I think NO.
I installes FF.
I installed plugin flash and plugin flashsleep. So only if I click
I can see flash most times they do not show flash.
Also I installed session manager.

Nothing more.

May be a bad one that did resets of the
> browser like Homepage, default Search Engine, 404 error splash page,
> etc. The other may be a Java problem even infection? Try Clam Antivirus
> or Comodo or other.
*
OK
>
> What happens if you try to change your Homepage back to your choice?
> Like open FF and go to the page you want for Homepage and click
> Edit>Preferences and click Current Homepage and close. Hit the Homepage
> button.
>*
Sorry
I do not understand.

90% surfing is happy.
Sometimes there is a bad page example big video in the pr.

Regards
Sophie

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] RE: How to make a bootable disc from a install disc

 

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:07 PM, <pascal.bernhard@belug.de> wrote:
> Unetbootin makes persistent USB keys only for Ubuntu. All other distributions put onto the stick via Unetbootin are 'live' only. :-( Pascal

Oh bother... thanks for mentioning that. I didn't realize that was an
Ubuntu only thing.

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[LINUX_Newbies] RE: How to make a bootable disc from a install disc

 

Hi, --- In linux_newbies@yahoogroups.com, <dreadpiratejeff@...> wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Scott < scottro@... > wrote:
>> I would add that Fedora 17 is already EOL (End Of Life) and you'd be better
>>off using Fedora 19. Do you mean a bootable disk to run as a live CD? If
>t>hat's the case, Fedora offers live CD's and you'd be better off using
>> that (and one for Fedora 19).

>Additionally, you'd be better off taking that live ISO and putting it
>onto a USB key using a tool like unetbootin. putting it on USB allows
>you to have persistent data stored as well as it just boots and runs
>faster than via CD/DVD.

>http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net

Unetbootin makes persistent USB keys only for Ubuntu. All other distributions put onto the stick via Unetbootin are 'live' only. :-( Pascal

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Starting software twice Linux

 

Simple answer is yes both Sweeper and BleachBits are Linux software you can
download from the Software Repository. BleachBits and also BleachBits Root
may already be installed, depends on the distro (Mint,Debian, Ubunut etc).
You can choose what you want to clean. Each area item has a check box.

I am guessing you were not familiar with Windows security and utilities like
CCleaner. Security in general has changed to the extreme to not even
allowing cookies to remain on the system past the current session in
browser. With Windows malware these were even being broken into for
nefarious reasons by cyber crime. With more or less "hints" of very first
Linux malware and/or intrusions occurring only in very, very recent years -
this seems much less a concern but nevertheless should be.
Unbelievers HERE / take a look...
http://linuxducks.free-forums.org/viewforum.php?f=10

In security, what malware would seek especially leaning towards financial
information, in Windows is called temporary internet files. For Linux this
is cookies and browser history and other areas as recent files opened etc.
They sift data to attempt to profile a user as to whether they may be a
potential target which in worst cases ends a IDTheft and cards max-out etc.
Tracking cookies are more towards "legal" entities which lean towards
targetting users with sales according to browsing habits and even financial
visits etc.

This is why it is recommended to use a simple utility software as Sweeper
which safely deletes these in these areas where the information is stored.
Using Private Session blocks storing of most and I am sure does not block
signing into a place like you mentioned - a forum. Of course a cookie for
simple identification purposes that you are the user are necessary for these
type sign/log ins. I do not believe the Private session mode blocks these
cookies.

You mentioned FF (Firefox browser) is saving everything you are doing at
like a forum. I assume you mean when you look at History it is showing each
site you visit. Each Forum page at each new string has a new website address
(URL) which is why it is saving that in History. All browsers do that as
default. It is the convenience as you move along and forgot what website you
were at you can simply click History and click the link to go there again.
However, today that is completely undesirable and is worst than cave man
days in security and privacy. However, all browsers have Settings that allow
you to adjust or click what you do not want stored all the time.

In FF click Tools all the way up top on the Menu Bar. If that is not showing
then right click on the top bar and click Menu bar to make it show. Now
clkick Tools and Options. At Options you will see all the various tweaks to
have it perform the way you want to. Like Do Not Store Browsing History,
Change Current Homepage, Tell Websites Not to Track and etc. In Windows you
can simply do one click that deletes everything each time you close the
browser (but there are still a couple items that CCleaner is used for). I do
not believe browers for Linux have this option. It is a manual operation.
This is what Sweeper is used for.

BleachBits cleans even more than simple browsing histories and files opened
lists etc. It gets rid of orphaned junk left over files that may be present
perhaps from uninstalled softwares etc. ALWAYS make sure you are NOT using
BleachBits Root - as this may perform irreversible deletions, corrupting the
system and rendering it inoperable to where you would have to reinstall
Linux from scratch. Regular BleachBits does very, very well for safe clean
up of the system time to time. It is a full list of items to check you can
browse down to choose.

I hope this helped!

gerald philly pa usa.
http://bluecollarpc.us/
http://linuxducks.webs.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: highskywhy@yahoo.de
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:05 PM
To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
Cc: G.LinuxDucks
Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Starting software twice Linux

Good afternoon
Thank You for Email and Help.
Do Aug 29 18:36:00 2013

Am 18.08.2013 15:26, schrieb G.LinuxDucks:> Hi Sophie,
> You asked before and I don't think U got an answer, and may help clear
> some things up.
>
> If familiar with Windows and cleaning internet tracks as safe to delete
> temporary internet files with like CCleaner or manual settings in
> browser to delete each time browser is closed - the equivalent in Linux
> is a really fast simple safe clean up software of these temporary
> internet files .... it is called Sweeper.
*
Is this a software?
Where is this software to install?
For Linux
For FF?

How can I use a browser without saving pages.
Example:

Forum: www.forum.org.
And I am writing a post.
Then I go to the next thread.
FF is saving every click and page.
How can I avoid this.
Private browsing deletes the passwords.

>
> You can download that from the built in Software Repository or like
> called Ubuntu Software Center in Ubuntu now etc.
*
OK
Does this clean ff or all browsers?

Simply click Choose All
> and when you close the browser - open Sweeper and run it. Takes less
> than a second unless a bit gunked up from a longer browsing session and
> like watching You Tubes etc. Then may take about up to five seconds.
*
OK

>
> The other more thorough cleaner and widely used is BleachBits (not Root
> BleachBits - could be dangerous to use if not really experienced with
> Linux Files). This also should be available in the Software Repository
> for download and installation. There are more clean up options available
> for a more thorough clean up across the board.
*
Ok
What does BleachBits clean?

>
> I am thinking two things may be a possible culprit. One, have you
> installed a browser Toolbar?
*
I think NO.
I installes FF.
I installed plugin flash and plugin flashsleep. So only if I click
I can see flash most times they do not show flash.
Also I installed session manager.

Nothing more.

May be a bad one that did resets of the
> browser like Homepage, default Search Engine, 404 error splash page,
> etc. The other may be a Java problem even infection? Try Clam Antivirus
> or Comodo or other.
*
OK
>
> What happens if you try to change your Homepage back to your choice?
> Like open FF and go to the page you want for Homepage and click
> Edit>Preferences and click Current Homepage and close. Hit the Homepage
> button.
>*
Sorry
I do not understand.

90% surfing is happy.
Sometimes there is a bad page example big video in the pr.

Regards
Sophie

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Starting software twice Linux

 



Good afternoon
Thank You for Email and Help.
Do Aug 29 18:36:00 2013

Am 18.08.2013 15:26, schrieb G.LinuxDucks:> Hi Sophie,
> You asked before and I don't think U got an answer, and may help clear
> some things up.
>
> If familiar with Windows and cleaning internet tracks as safe to delete
> temporary internet files with like CCleaner or manual settings in
> browser to delete each time browser is closed - the equivalent in Linux
> is a really fast simple safe clean up software of these temporary
> internet files .... it is called Sweeper.
*
Is this a software?
Where is this software to install?
For Linux
For FF?

How can I use a browser without saving pages.
Example:

Forum: www.forum.org.
And I am writing a post.
Then I go to the next thread.
FF is saving every click and page.
How can I avoid this.
Private browsing deletes the passwords.

>
> You can download that from the built in Software Repository or like
> called Ubuntu Software Center in Ubuntu now etc.
*
OK
Does this clean ff or all browsers?

Simply click Choose All
> and when you close the browser - open Sweeper and run it. Takes less
> than a second unless a bit gunked up from a longer browsing session and
> like watching You Tubes etc. Then may take about up to five seconds.
*
OK

>
> The other more thorough cleaner and widely used is BleachBits (not Root
> BleachBits - could be dangerous to use if not really experienced with
> Linux Files). This also should be available in the Software Repository
> for download and installation. There are more clean up options available
> for a more thorough clean up across the board.
*
Ok
What does BleachBits clean?

>
> I am thinking two things may be a possible culprit. One, have you
> installed a browser Toolbar?
*
I think NO.
I installes FF.
I installed plugin flash and plugin flashsleep. So only if I click
I can see flash most times they do not show flash.
Also I installed session manager.

Nothing more.

May be a bad one that did resets of the
> browser like Homepage, default Search Engine, 404 error splash page,
> etc. The other may be a Java problem even infection? Try Clam Antivirus
> or Comodo or other.
*
OK
>
> What happens if you try to change your Homepage back to your choice?
> Like open FF and go to the page you want for Homepage and click
> Edit>Preferences and click Current Homepage and close. Hit the Homepage
> button.
>*
Sorry
I do not understand.

90% surfing is happy.
Sometimes there is a bad page example big video in the pr.

Regards
Sophie

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Two users on one computer

 

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 06:48:27PM +0200, highskywhy@yahoo.de wrote:
>
>
> Good afternoon
> Thank You for Email and Help.
> Do Aug 29 18:36:00 2013
>

> > |
> > | I was reading:
> > | Mutt doesn't talk smtp
> >
> > No longer the case.
> *
> Thank You.
> Is there a new manual?

If you install mutt, you can use man mutt and man muttrc for help. You can
also just google for guides to mutt, maybe putting in the version number

Doing that, I see the official mutt manual still doesn't seem to cover it,
but the Debian wiki has something.

https://wiki.debian.org/Mutt

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Starting software twice Linux

 



Good afternoon
Thank You for Email and Help.
Do Aug 29 18:36:00 2013

Am 18.08.2013 12:26, schrieb Pascal Bernhard:> Hi Sophie,
>
> Am 31-07-2013 16:02, schrieb highskywhy@yahoo.de
> <mailto:highskywhy%40yahoo.de>:
> > Good afternoon.
> > Mi Jul 31 15:34:43 2013
> > Thank You for Email and help.
> >
> >
> >> > 2 Terminal 2 Tasks
> >> >
> >> > I start terminal one Midori
> >> > I start terminal 2 Midori.
> >> > I kill terminal 1 and both Midoris are destroyed.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > is it possible to use
> >> > a programm like ff oder midori
> >> > independent from the other software?
> >>
> >> Hi Sophie,
> >>
> >> it's not entirely clear to me what you are actually trying to
> >> achieve.
> > *
> > Thank You.
> > What is the problem.
> >
> > I start Midori or FF
> > and then there is a bad homepage.
> >
> > Example: Forum PR asks do You want to download mp3.
> >
> > So the browser is blocked.
> > My idea is
> > to start a second ff
> > where I can open another url
> > and this is independent to the first url.
> >
> > Second problem is:
> > All browsers fill themself with dirt.
> >
> > Example: Every 3 hours I kill FF
> > and fresh startened
> > now FF is more fast.
> >
> > These are the problems.
>
> This is an issue common to all browsers, even after they stopped
> running, they do no return all the physical memory allocated to them.
*
OK

> There was an interesting article in c't magazin last year, can't find it
> anymore about that topic. Firefox does worst and sadly it is becoming
> ever more bloated, even though the guys at the Mozilla foundation
> pledged to remedy that when they issued version 4.0. Back then there
> really was a noticeable improvement, but by now all that has completely
> vanished and in fact worsened.
+
OK
>
> >
> > I
> >> mean, why would you want start a certain program like a web browser
> >> twice?
> > *
> > Because of trouble during surfing.
>
> You state that you sometimes have serious issues with certain websites?
*
Yes.
Example flash.

> From what you say, I deduce that this happens nearly every time you hit
> these sites.
*
The problem also is
most time
it was pr.

Example
I open Yahoo
a famous page
and there is a big big video as pr on the page.
Then the browser is very busy.

In case this happens also when using a different browser,
> this appears to be rather scary and is less of an issue of FF than these
> crappy (or even malevolent) webpages.
*
Ok

>
> I would guess starting a different browser to continue surfing the net,
> when the first one freezed up should the better, since faster option in
> your case.
*
I do this now.
So I am using
chrome
chromium
and so on
an open every page with another browser.

Regards
Sophie

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] simple update questions XUBUNTU update

 

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 06:52:05PM +0200, highskywhy@yahoo.de wrote:
>
>
> good afternoon
> thank you for hel
> I do
>
> sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade

No, that is correct. Running apt-get update first updates your sources,
that is, what the system will use to check for updates in software. Then,
upgrade will actually upgrade the software.

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Two users on one computer

 

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 06:48:27PM +0200, highskywhy@yahoo.de wrote:
>
>
> Ok
> >
> > However, mutt was originally written to live in a larger ecosystem,
> > and many of us do not use its pop or smtp features directly.
> *

> What does mean directly?

Meaning, that as Cameron explains later in the email, rather than using
this built in smtp or pop feature of later versions of mutt, we use third
party programs to do that.

> >
> > Instead, we run a separate program to collect email, usually using
> > POP. Programs such as fetchmail and getmail are common choices for
> > this. I run "getmail" regularly to collect my email and deliver it
> > to my "spool" folder. (And run a mail filing program to move messages
> > out of there into various mail folders for various lists etc.)
> >*
> So
> to use other programs than mutt is common?
>

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