Monday, March 26, 2012

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Newcomer: Phooey - no GUI: Installled ubunto 8.04 on a 256Meg P3 machine

It is not unusual for an Ubuntu based distribution to refer to Ubuntu
rather than Debian even though Ubuntu is a spin off of Debian.

Most users not care where apt originated. They do not care about Linux and
its history or petty turf wars. They only want to use their computers
without hassles. When we split hairs over the wording of a review it is
divisive and will not help Debian or hurt Ubuntu. It only confuses users.

Although Synaptic is not included by default, apt-get is. As mentioned by
you, Synaptic is easily installable. It is the first app that I install
with any of the *buntus. I refuse to use SC and either use apt or Synaptic
for all of my installation. It isn't that SC is bad so much as it does not
provide the information that I need, such as a list of dependencies and the
source.

There are few polished distributions that are based on Debian stable. I
would know as I have tried them all. I also like the six month release
cycle and look forward to testing alphas and betas. People should feel free
to what works for them and to discuss their distros without having the
thought police come after them. We need to ease up and not get hung up on
terms and wording. It just distracts from discussion and adds little.

Roy

Using Kubuntu 11.10, 64-bit
Location: Canada


On 26 March 2012 09:42, Paul <pfrederick1@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Roy <linuxcanuck@...> wrote:
> >
> > You are over-thinking this statement. It does not have to mean Ubuntu
> > *developed*, but could also mean *included* with Ubuntu. That would
> include
> > apt-get, etc. I also think that you are under-estimating Software Centre
> > which handles the chores or Synaptic and gdebi as well as pushing
> content.
> > It sounds like you have an axe to grind.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > Using Kubuntu 11.10, 64-bit
> > Location: Canada
> >
> >
> > On 25 March 2012 08:09, Paul <pfrederick1@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I read that article and I am wondering what the author of it meant by
> this
> > > line, "Don't worry, all the standard Ubuntu package management tools
> are
> > > here for you to use."
> > >
> > > The only software that could even remotely be called a package
> management
> > > tool that Canonical has written that I've heard of is the Ubuntu
> Software
> > > Center, and it is more a content pushing mechanism than a utility to
> me.
>
> I think if you're hearing anything it is your own grind stone. The truth
> will set you free.
>
> From:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html
>
> "The Debian package management system has a rich history and many choices
> for the front end user program and back end archive access method to be
> used."
>
> From:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaptic_(software)
>
> "In October 2009, when the Ubuntu Software Center became available,
> Synaptic and other utilities were to be replaced by the Ubuntu Software
> Center in an unspecified future version of Ubuntu.[1] In Ubuntu 11.10
> Oneiric Ocelot, Synaptic has been removed from the default installation,
> but remains available as a package in the repository."
>
> Paul
>
>
>


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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Newcomer: Phooey - no GUI: Installled ubunto 8.04 on a 256Meg P3 machine

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "justin_e_bell2000" <justin_e_bell2000@...> wrote:
>
> in more detail:
>
> Booting up just yields a black screen and no response from mouse or keyboard.
>
> So I:
> 1.Ran a memory test to see if the memory was an issue. - The memory checked good. No help.

My guess is you do not have enough RAM to run the Windowing Environment.

You could install a more lightweight Window manager, edit your ~/.xinitrc file and try that to see. I recommend FluxBox for the test. If your system can't run that, it probably can't run anything.

At the command prompt:

sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove

sudo aptitude install fluxbox

then

$echo "exec fluxbox" > ~/.xinitrc

Cross your fingers and type startx

If it works you can incrementally try different window managers to see what level of functionality your machine can support. A couple you may like to look at include:

http://www.icewm.org/

and

http://www.xfce.org/

Good luck! Personally I'd try a lighter distribution designed for older hardware. Start small and work up.

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Newcomer: Phooey - no GUI: Installled ubunto 8.04 on a 256Meg P3 machine

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Roy <linuxcanuck@...> wrote:
>
> You are over-thinking this statement. It does not have to mean Ubuntu
> *developed*, but could also mean *included* with Ubuntu. That would include
> apt-get, etc. I also think that you are under-estimating Software Centre
> which handles the chores or Synaptic and gdebi as well as pushing content.
> It sounds like you have an axe to grind.
>
> Roy
>
> Using Kubuntu 11.10, 64-bit
> Location: Canada
>
>
> On 25 March 2012 08:09, Paul <pfrederick1@...> wrote:
>
> > I read that article and I am wondering what the author of it meant by this
> > line, "Don't worry, all the standard Ubuntu package management tools are
> > here for you to use."
> >
> > The only software that could even remotely be called a package management
> > tool that Canonical has written that I've heard of is the Ubuntu Software
> > Center, and it is more a content pushing mechanism than a utility to me.

I think if you're hearing anything it is your own grind stone. The truth will set you free.

From:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html

"The Debian package management system has a rich history and many choices for the front end user program and back end archive access method to be used."

From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaptic_(software)

"In October 2009, when the Ubuntu Software Center became available, Synaptic and other utilities were to be replaced by the Ubuntu Software Center in an unspecified future version of Ubuntu.[1] In Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot, Synaptic has been removed from the default installation, but remains available as a package in the repository."

Paul

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[LINUX_Newbies] PHP Address Book

 

Dear All,

i was tried to install and configure but i can't understand that how to create username and password in database for access to page so plz check this application and guide me that how to install and configure

http://sourceforge.net/projects/zephyrsoft/files/Address%20Book%20Continued/1.02/abc-1.02.zip/download

Thanks.

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Sunday, March 25, 2012

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Newcomer: Phooey - no GUI: Installled ubunto 8.04 on a 256Meg P3 machine

On Mar 25, 2012 4:51 PM, "justin_e_bell2000" <justin_e_bell2000@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks for your input. I will try this if all else fails. I have Unbuntu
10 and 11 successfully installed on slightly more modern machines (P4).
>
> Ubuntu is the choice for a cad package. The veterans' group I belong to
is using a cad package and building numeric control machines to help
returning vets here in Spokane. I am trying to avoid the problem of
spreading out to mulltiple versions of Linux. We get occasional donations
of old computers. So far i have tried:
> 1 Fedora.
> 2 Slacko Puppy
> 3 Unbuntu (various versions).
>
> I have the option of falling back to version 7 ubuntu - which installed
sucessrully, but was difficult to update to its full potental.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Justin
>

Hi Justin. With everything you describe above... Could be a bad burn or
download of the original file.

> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "g.linuxducks" <g.linuxducks@...>
wrote:
> >
> > Bookmark:
> >
> > Bodhi Linux Is Beautiful & Works On Very Old Computers [Linux]
> > Try a lightweight, beautiful Linux distro that works on very old
hardware.
> > Bodhi Linux can run on processors with only 300 MHz so imagine how well
> > it will ...
> >
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/bodhi-linux-beautiful-works-computers-linux/
> >
> >
> > On 03/23/2012 12:54 PM, justin_e_bell2000 wrote:
> > > After a non-eventful install of 8.04 I boot up to a blank screen.
> > >
> > >
> > > Machine
> > > No-name
> > > P3 processor
> > > 256 megs ram
> > > 15 gig c drive
> > > 15 gig d drive
> > >
> > >
> > > History.
> > > I installed Ubuntu 7 successfully - but found it difficult to
upgrade. Version 7 is no longer supported- so I decided to bypass the
problems and install version 8. Normal install requires 384 megs of ram.
> > >
> > > Because of my 256 meg limitation - I used the alternate version CD
install - which will work with the smaller memory. All seemed to go well -
but after rebooting - I just get a blank screen - the mouse and keyboard
are unresponsive.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>


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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Newcomer: Phooey - no GUI: Installled ubunto 8.04 on a 256Meg P3 machine

 

<<<
> "Don't worry, all the standard Ubuntu package management tools are here for you to use."

Most likely they are referring to installers for softwares.

On 03/25/2012 08:09 AM, Paul wrote:
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> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "g.linuxducks"<g.linuxducks@...> wrote:
>> Bookmark:
>>
>> Bodhi Linux Is Beautiful& Works On Very Old Computers [Linux]
>> Try a lightweight, beautiful Linux distro that works on very old hardware.
>> Bodhi Linux can run on processors with only 300 MHz so imagine how well
>> it will ...
>> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/bodhi-linux-beautiful-works-computers-linux/
> I read that article and I am wondering what the author of it meant by this line, "Don't worry, all the standard Ubuntu package management tools are here for you to use."
> --------------------------cut-----------------------cut-----------------/

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[nslu2-linux] gconv-modules package problem

 

lftp :~> set ftp:charset gbk
gbk: this encoding is not supported.

the gconv-modules package is installed, though /opt/lib/gconv doesn't even exists.

the file it downloaded from the ddwrt repos:
http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/ddwrt/cross/stable/gconv-modules_2.2.5-7_mipsel.ipk
it's only 679 bytes

And in the nslu2 repos:
http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/nslu2/cross/stable/gconv-modules_2.2.5-7_armeb.ipk
it's 1.6MB

I guess the ipk file in the ddwrt repos is a faulty build? I tried to check the auto build log but found nothing related to gconv-modules, and I know very little about cross compile things, hope somebody could check it.

And I hope this is the right place to report this, if not, I hope I didn't disturb anybody. and forgive me for my bad English.

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