Sunday, October 25, 2009

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] new to linux, have not down loaded yet need help

 

Hey thanks for the link Roy! (And thanks for top posting. lol) I'm not
very comfortable with doing custom installations at install time, but I
will follow the instructions provided in the link you sent.

Justin

Roy wrote:
>
>
> When you install or from an already installed distribution?
>
> When you install you choose choose to do a custom installation. You
> partition your drive or if already partitioned you use one of them.
> For your
> root file system you use one partition. Format it in your favourite
> format,
> ext3 or ext4. You set the mount point to /. You choose another partition.
> Choose its file format, but only tick it to format if you want to start
> fresh. Set the mount point as /home.
>
> When you choose your user name and password it will set that name as your
> home folder under /home. BTW, /home still appears in the root
> directory, but
> its location is actually on a separate partition. When you click on
> /home in
> your file manager it will be linked to your home partition.
>
> If you have an existing installation you can move /home to another
> partition
> but it is a little trickier. See:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home
> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home>
>
> Much of this work can be done without resorting to the commandline using
> gparted and Users and groups administration tools.
>
> Roy
>
> 2009/10/25 Drmgiver <drmgiver@gmail.com <mailto:drmgiver%40gmail.com>>
>
> >
> >
> > Ubuntu is what I use and I love it. I have recently downloaded the
> > release candidate of 9.10 and I have never seen a quicker, more powerful
> > Linux before, I have a feeling you will love it. Now, unfortunately I
> > do not know how to do a lot of custom things like having your home
> > folder in a separate partition. But I hardly ever use anything else but
> > Ubuntu. I do use Windows every so often when I want to play a certain
> > risque 2d MMO (lol Gee I wonder what that is) but usually I am in
> > Ubuntu. On another note, that raises a question. How do I set home
> > folder to a separate partition?
> >
> > Justin
> >
> >
> > Jim Tillman wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you for your help! I'm working on this and i may need you yet
> > > again as I said I'm way new to all this but I believe linux is what I
> > > want to become prolific in. To be honest I am a tad scared at this
> > > point of getting some thing wrong and crashing my computer! But I have
> > > been reading on this Ubuntu and reading the, pocket guide and
> > > reference book. Is this a good way to go?
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, Roy <linuxcanuck@gmail.com
> <mailto:linuxcanuck%40gmail.com><linuxcanuck%40gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:linuxcanuck%40gmail.com <linuxcanuck%2540gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Roy <linuxcanuck@gmail.com <mailto:linuxcanuck%40gmail.com>
> <linuxcanuck%40gmail.com> <mailto:
> > linuxcanuck%40gmail.com <linuxcanuck%2540gmail.com>>>
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] new to linux, have not down loaded yet
> > > need help
> > > To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:LINUX_Newbies%40yahoogroups.com>
> <LINUX_Newbies%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
> > LINUX_Newbies%40yahoogroups.com <LINUX_Newbies%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> > > Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 3:43 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Linux is a bit different from what operating system you might be used
> > > to. It
> > >
> > > allows for you to install the operating system one place and have the
> > user
> > >
> > > files elsewhere. The operating system is installed in / (called
> root) and
> > >
> > > the users's files are installed in /home.
> > >
> > > Many people find it useful to have your operating system and /home in
> > >
> > > separate partitions. The reason is that you can re-use home if done
> > > this way
> > >
> > > and never lose your data or settings if you re-install your operating
> > >
> > > system. The root file system is replaced, but the users files
> would not
> > be
> > >
> > > touched provided you elect for a custom installation and do not format
> > >
> > > /home.
> > >
> > > The file system keeps users away from your root directory and they
> would
> > >
> > > need to know the password for root to make changes.
> > >
> > > Since you will be wanting users to use separate drives this suggests a
> > >
> > > custom installation anyway. You might as well go the extra mile to
> have
> > >
> > > separate partitions for root and home.
> > >
> > > If this was my system, I would partition the larger drive so that
> it has
> > >
> > > about 20 GBs for the root file system and the in one partition
> > > formatted in
> > >
> > > ext3 or 4. The other drive I would format and set as my /home. To
> do this
> > >
> > > you format the drive in ext3 or 4 and set the mount point as /home.
> > > Use your
> > >
> > > user name and password.
> > >
> > > After installation you can then add users and give each a password,
> > > but set
> > >
> > > their /home on the unused partition of your other drive.
> > >
> > > A couple of considerations are in order. It is easier (but not
> better) to
> > >
> > > have the root partition on your first drive as that is where grub, the
> > > boot
> > >
> > > loader, prefers to reside. It can be edited or installed on the second
> > >
> > > drive, but it saves you the hassle. Therefore it might be better to
> > > use the
> > >
> > > remainder of the first drive for your other users and the second drive
> > for
> > >
> > > you.
> > >
> > > However, you don't say anything about drive size. If users are heavy
> > >
> > > downloaders you may want to re-think your placement of their /home
> > folders
> > >
> > > and partition size. You can run a distribution in 8 GBs, but if you
> > > install
> > >
> > > lots of applications afterwards, you can run out of space and
> things bog
> > >
> > > down or even crash. If it is 20 GBs for / it leaves you with space for
> > >
> > > growth. If you opt for lots of post installation (there are 35000
> > >
> > > applications or so) then you want to go larger 30 GBs or even more.
> > >
> > > Most space should be devoted to /home as most users download and
> produce
> > >
> > > lots of material.
> > >
> > > All things are possible. Well almost. My system has two drives and a
> > > over a
> > >
> > > dozen partitions. I typically have several distributions installed at
> > once
> > >
> > > and use several different /homes just for myself. It is that much fun!
> > >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > > 2009/10/25 JimT <jim6440@yahoo. com>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Guess the first thing to say is i really do not know much about
> > > computers.
> > >
> > > > and i am very interested in learning linux. I have 2 hard drives
> on my
> > >
> > > > computer and 4 users. I want to know how to do a partition to have
> > > linux on
> > >
> > > > #2 and keep #1 for all the other users. #2 has very little on it
> > > other then
> > >
> > > > what was put on it when it was installed by a computer service co.
> > > when i
> > >
> > > > bought it. I have put a few things on it myself like lanwhois,
> > auslogics
> > >
> > > > reg.defrag, google hacks and a trial of smart draw 2010. and my
> > > guess is i
> > >
> > > > can just move them to #1 if i even want to keep them. It is a MAXTOR
> > > 6Y080M0
> > >
> > > > and has 4.08 GB of used and 228 GB of unused space on it. Guess
> > > thats the
> > >
> > > > most of it, just looking for some support on this and looking
> forward
> > to
> > >
> > > > learning linux! Thank you, jim6440
> > >
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