Well said Roy, this speaks volumes as to why I am losing my head in this
forum and may just leave to use the Ubuntu forums exclusively. There
are a lot of people around her who act like Debian users.
Justin
Roy wrote:
>
> Ubuntu has gone out its way to welcome newcomers. It maximizes
> participation. It has a council to oversee the community, a code of
> conduct,
> blogs, newsletters, mailing lists, podcasts, live IRC discussions,
> classes,
> forums, online help and documentation, wikis, RSS feeds, a full time
> community developer, LUGs or LoCo teams, bug squads, project teams,
> artwork
> teams for each flavour, conferences, developer opportunities, release
> parties, Launchpad, language and internationalizatio
> Brainstorm (suggestions for future releases), testing structure,
> events such
> as Open Week, Ubuntu Women and more. They even give out free CDs so that
> there are no barriers to using their product. If this is hype then so
> be it.
> More distributions need this kind of hype and participation.
>
> They are very careful about how they present themselves so that there
> aren't
> a bunch of loose cannons giving the distribution a bad name. Much of this
> probably has to do with corporate structure and an understanding that
> comes
> with that on how to market your product. They want to appeal to a broad
> range including enterprise users. You can be cynical, but it works.
>
> You don't have to be the best to win people over. You only need to
> care for
> and look after them. That is not hype, but just good practise. If a
> distribution wants to grow then they need to make it about the users
> and not
> about an ideology or software. People like to feel a part of something and
> not be just a cog in a wheel. They have already had that experience
> which is
> why they are leaving their previous OS. Ubuntu gets it and, fault them if
> you will, it is working. Everything else is sour grapes.
>
> Roy
>
> 2009/10/26 Scott <scottro@nyc.
>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 02:08:37AM -0400, J wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 01:01, Drmgiver <drmgiver@gmail.
> <mailto:drmgiver%
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > And to that I would have to say it is hype...... "Believe the hype".
> > > > Especially with 9.10 which is a beast.
> > > >
> > > > Justin
> > >
> > > I'm sorry, what part of that was hype? Scott was talking about
> > > several different OSs. Or did you mean Scott's wife and Japanese was
> > > hype? Or was something else hype? You really didn't trim the quoted
> > > stuff, and there were so many different thoughts in Scott's reply that
> > > just picking one out to be Hype is rather difficult.
> >
> > And that, boys and girls, is why one should properly post. Here's the
> > thing. Firstly, (some of you made it to my killfile after the last
> > time, so I've missed much of this). The folks who suggest proper
> > posting are usually those who have Linux in their job title, which could
> > be empirical proof of their ability.
> >
> > Sometimes, due to a handicap, or, for whatever reason being stuck with
> > yahoo web mail (or using PDA's) it *is* difficult to post properly,
> >
> > However, here's the thing. Those of us who do work professionally, get
> > literally, hundreds of tech emails a day. If I see something two days
> > after I've replied, I'll often have no idea what it's about. Unless
> > it's interesting, I'll seldom go beyond a line or two to see what it's
> > about.
> >
> > Roy, for example, uses Yahoo mail (I think.) But he's knowledgeable and
> > writes really interesting stuff. What intrigues me (again, some of
> > these folks made it to my killfile, so I never saw their original posts)
> > is how Jeff, John (who gave up on this list after the last insult--not
> > only is he another professional, but does it in at least two
> > languages--nice move, folks) will politely mention it in a post to which
> > they are giving an answer, and these other folks, who seem to be less
> > technically adept, and have never, in my experience (before I plonked
> > them), offered an alternative answer to the technical question, will
> > hijack a thread--another no-no, see the faq Jeff mentioned, to rant
> > about top posting.
> >
> > Like I said last time, do what you want, but it's best, if you have
> > tech questions, to do your best to get the technical folks to answer
> > them.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It's just so dark here under my rock, I need help finding the hype.
> >
> > Must have been my wife. She's hyper. I guess this refers to something
> > I wrote.
> >
> > I could have told ya not to mention posting style in this list. :)
> >
> > You trolling pirate you.
> >
> > --
> > Scott Robbins
> > PGP keyID EB3467D6
> > ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
> > gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6
> >
> > Xander: I don't like vampires. I'm going to take a stand and say
> > they're not good.
> >
> >
>
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>
>
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