Thursday, October 22, 2009

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Firefox problem

 

Have you considered that it is a problem with PCLOS and their implementation
of Firefox? If so, check their forums to see if it turns up there. Sometimes
these things can be resolved with an update. I would also look at your
extensions.

Roy

2009/10/22 J <dreadpiratejeff@gmail.com>

>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 18:51, Gary <xheralt@yahoo.com<xheralt%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't care how much y'all hate FF3.x, reverting to FF 2.x is a security
> breach waiting to happen, and the *worst* frakking advice > to give someone.
>
> When's the last time you had a box rooted?
>
> Thought so. FWIW, I've run FF 2.x for a very long time on multiple
> machines, multiple Linux distros and with sometimes very heavy net
> usage and have never, ever had even one attempted intrusion via a FF
> exploit, such as there are. The advice is no better, nor worse right
> now, really, than suggesting someone continue to run a poorly designed
> browser that continuously suffers from memory leaks and random
> bugginess. While the chance DOES exist of finding a site that
> contains exploit code, finding one that targets a FF vulnerability AND
> has code designed to target a Linux system (as opposed to a site
> containing exploit code that affects BOTH FF and IE) is on the low end
> of the risk scale. You're far more likely to find a site containing
> code that hits an exploit that is generic and affects both FF and IE
> which targets IE systems. Mostly for the same reason that while Mac
> OSX exploits exist, you see and hear of very few real instances of
> such things being used in the wild.
>
> > As far as the memory leaks go, well, I've just learned to not leave my
> browser open overnight when I go to sleep, it's fine
> > otherwise. I tend to run into more immediate troubles dealing with
> script-heavy sites (like yahoo.com)...
>
> Ahhh... You are a former Windows user, yes? That's the problem that
> arises from a software company with dominant market share that
> produces substandard product. Everyone gets into a "Well I can work
> around the continuous memory leaks and other problems, so it's OK".
> No, it's not OK. Workarounds are not an acceptable alternative to
> good design and decision making.
>
> >
> > Opera just doesn't do it for me, it doesn't have the extensions I need or
> the themes I want.
> >
>
> Extensions I can appreciate... but Themes? Granted, the FF3 install
> on my netbook is using themes just because I thought the idea was
> novel and cute, but is it really necessary to theme EVERYTHING on a
> system? Just curious, because I never saw the use for themes outside
> the desktop itself.
>
> > I'm running PCLOS 2009.2 on a 1.8GHz Sempron-based laptop, and never had
> that autoscrolling problem.
> >
>
> THAT's important, because honestly, I'd never run into anything like
> the OP was describing on any FF version ever, and I've run them since
> FF was still Mozilla and Netscape on various linux distros and
> kernels... Actually, I take that back, I DID kind of run into
> something similar on one box, mostly because it had little RAM and
> continuously swapped back and forth, causing actions to be buffered,
> so my scrolling turned into an unstoppable autoscroll because so many
> actions were backed up. More RAM fixed the issue though...
>
> > Glenn, have you tried starting Firefox in safe mode [code]firefox
> --safe-mode[/code] and resetting everything? It might even be
> > worth your while to remove/reinstall Firefox from within Synaptic, or
> even to do a total OS re-install (custom, preserving your
> > /home partition) from a 2009.2 LiveCD, because sometimes glitches and
> other artifacts get carried forward when one upgrades,
> > drek that gets eliminated by a clean install.
>
> There was a time when I would advise against ANY updating, other than
> in-version security updates. I would tell people to just do a fresh
> install any time they wanted a new Major or Minor release (e.g. RH5.1
> to RH5.2) because of the problems you describe. Now-a-days, the
> updating is a lot more smooth and usable and does not often result in
> artifacts and other problems, BUT you are right. Sometimes a fresh
> install of a new version is the cure... I vote this for the OP ;-)
>
> And could you please not top post in the future? :-)
>
> Cheers
> Jeff
>
> --
>
> Ted Turner - "Sports is like a war without the killing."
>
>

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