Sunday, May 9, 2010

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] What distro's to try.

I started out in Mandrake around ten years ago. It was my first distro. I
remember it with some affection and some dread. I lived through two years of
RPM hell as it was called then. Now RPM has improved and in some ways it is
better than DEB. I really like Fedora's use of Presto where it only
downloads delta changes to a package. I hope that Ubuntu decides to
implement it. I even belonged to their club for a couple of years at $96 per
year which was a lot back then. I have all of my CDs still somewhere in a
box.

I still use Mandrake occasionally. It is a complete release, although it has
nowhere near enough packages for me. Every distro has its strengths and
weaknesses. Mandrake can be flaky. It will work really well with one
hardware configuration and not even be able to install on another. When I
first got this computer four years ago I could not run Mandrake for over a
year. Then it caught up to the technology of the time.

My biggest beef with Mandrake today is the use of LILO and the fact that it
does not detect and install boot loaders for all of my distributions. That
being said Mandrake has a good community, good online support, and lots of
features worth bragging about. It is an excellent choice if your application
requirements are limited. Of the RPM distros it is among my favourites,
ahead of openSuSE but behind PCLinuxOS (which was forked from Mandrake) and
Fedora which is to my mind the best intermediate distribution there is.

One thing that I did notice with the release of Mandriva 2010 last fall was
that they managed to get Nvidia with compositing and special effects to work
out of the box with Plymouth while Fedora 12 required you to fudge the
settings. Even Ubuntu 10.04 with alpha one months later had problems with
managing this and mine with 10.04 final looks terrible (lo res kubuntu)
until I get the GUI login window. So Mandriva has done lots of good work to
achieve what others cannot.

Roy

On 9 May 2010 06:09, Scott <scottro@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 06:04:10AM +0100, Jane Delawney wrote:
> > Just a couple more small points re: newb distros (& stuff :) ):
> >
> > > which of course, aggravates the heck out of we dinosaurs who prefer
> > > command line. It's not bad to have GUI tools--what aggravates we
> > > dinosaurs is when they tie things like networking to the GUI.
>
> > Who is 'they' here?
>
> Fedora, for one. Though I believe it's improving, and one can now, in
> theory at least, use their GUI tool NetworkManager without having to
> have Gnome running.
>
>
> I'd always supposed that my complete inability to do
> > networking via CLI was down to my lameness, not to anything the distro
> > developers have done. But I'd definitely be the last person to work it
> > out if that was indeed the case.
>
> Nope. For example, with Mint, at one point, I changed the default
> window manager from Gnome to fluxbox. Suddenly, no network.
>
> All such things can usually be fixed, but with so many distributions
> around, one gets to the point where they figure, why bother? With
> Fedora (and I'm sure this is true for others), when experienced, one can
> more or less easily work around it.
>
>
> --
> Scott Robbins
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>


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