--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Scott <scottro@...> wrote:
>
For example, I tried Mint, and changed
> the desktop from Gnome to Fluxbox and my network stopped working.
>
This is how I fixed that:
aptitude remove network-manager
Like all great commands it is completely counter intuitive. Might be a good idea to install pump before you do it though. Just in case.
> Many of the desktop distros go in this direction now, tying sound,
> networking, or other essential system services to the GUI.
Now now lets lay blame where it is deserved. There is a daemon process that messes this up called avahai-daemon. Watch for it in top.
Check out this ebil looking bugger: http://avahi.org/ I think he is Mr. Magoo's pet bear.
this fixes his wagon:
sudo update-rc.d avahi-daemon remove
Another incantation most of us aren't born knowing.
Once you do those two things unless you have a wireless network networking starts working a lot more like you think it should.
I'm guessing that modern distros are coming wireless enabled and wired people have the burden of configuration today. I don't know for sure though as soon as I get things working I move on. If you decide you like the evil bear just switch remove with defaults to get him back. Not so sure how you'd get network-manager back if you're offline, I never wanted to personally.
> These days, it seems to be what the vast majority of users prefer--there
> are still other distributions and systems, such as the BSDs, to appeal
> to those of us who need a bit more control.
>
>
>
> Once I get more knowledgeable about the nuts and bolts
> > of Linux (something that is totally unnecessary for most uses)
>
>
> <snip>
>
> The important point here is that you're correct. In most cases,
> especially with relatively well thought out distributions, such as
> Ubuntu and the like, it really has become almost unnecessary.
>
>
> --
> Scott Robbins
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> gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6
>
> Principal Snyder: It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that
> that gets you eaten.
>
What killed me in Ubuntu was a few very annoying bugs I ran up against but never got to the bottom of because I ditched it for Debian. Did file a couple of reports though.
Well there was the 155 total processes on the system with a blank desktop and the .20 load at idle too that I wasn't too keen on either.
I got a stripped bare Lenny box that can be in fluxbox running top with 32 total procs in 50MB RAM. Yeah Debian is worth it!
Paul
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