Sunday, December 5, 2010

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Linux is awesome

We must be talking about different users. The user I was responding to said
that he was a power user wanted to learn using only the commandline and no
GUI. So I originally suggested Arch in a VM. I know that this is a newbies
forum, but he was not a newbie or so he said.

I would recommend Arch to a new user, if that new user wanted such a
distribution and experience. Users enter Linux at all levels and can bring
to Linux advanced skills. And some do not want to start with a box that just
works. They may want a Heathkit kind of experience. It takes all kinds and
fortunately Linux offers a full range of options and experiences. I do
recommend Mint to a newbie who had no experience and wanted things to just
work OTB. I did post that my wife was now using Mint.

Anyway, no harm done, he can take advice or not as he sees fit. If I am
wrong in this (my memory isn't what it used to be) I apologise in advance. I
do not have the full conversation as I get this by email and am too lazy to
go to the forum. I know that you are an advocate for Mint and that is good,
however I did not see this discussion as detracting from Mint (save the
green comment and I happen to like green). :)

Roy

Using Kubuntu 10.10, 64-bit
Location: Canada


On 5 December 2010 10:54, loyal_barber <loyal_barber@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com <LINUX_Newbies%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Roy <linuxcanuck@...> wrote:
> >
> > I think Loyal you need to reread the post.
>
> I did Roy and my feelings are the same. It is a bad idea to
> recommend a difficult version to a Newbie. I always subscribe to
> "walk before you run."
>
> > He says that Mint is friendly and
>
> He suggests in his last statement that this is a drawback. Read
> it again.
>
>
> > suggests that the user might want to try an "unfriendly" distro to learn
> > basics on. He was not knocking Mint, except the green bit and green can
> mean
> > several things. Mint has tried to make a name for itself as user friendly
> > and I think that you would concur that it has succeeded.
> >
> > You can learn basics on Mint or Ubuntu or any other big name distro, but
> you
> > need to go to great lengths to do so. Something like Arch installs to a
> > command prompt and you take it from there. The suggestion was that the
> > person could learn the basic better and become a power user if the tried
> a
> > more basic distro such as Arch, Slack or Gentoo. That does not preclude
> > using Mint for daily use. I don't think that anyone was suggesting Mint
> is
> > not good for using, just not a learner's distro in the same way that the
> > others are. Comments such as "deranged" mean that the writer was poking
> fun
> > not at Mint but at anyone who would want to use the commandline only.
> >
> > Roy
> > <snip>
>
> Sorry, Roy, I just think you are wrong. I think you read what
> you wanted into his reply. I am sure I am doing the same. That
> said, I would NEVER recommend Arch to a new user. Would I recommend
> Arch later? Absolutely. Again, walk before you run or better
> stated: ready, aim, fire, not ready, fire, aim. There is enough to
> get used to in Linux using Ubuntu or Mint first. Suggesting the user
> would be better suited to go to Arch or Slackware first is an
> excellent way to get the new user to convert back to Windows and
> say, "Linux is just too hard to learn."
>
> Loyal
>
>
>


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