Monday, June 27, 2011

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to group with QUESTION

 

Your comment ....<<<as far as your eth0 theory goes. >>> is VERY puzzeling.
I did NOT say any such a thing. Quoted I said....

<<<>> Like ethernet is named " Auto eth0 " by default or you will never got
online...>>>

It HAS to be " Auto eth0 " which is capital A and then space and then eth
and number zero together as "Auto eth0" . This is NOT theory but reality
with Ubuntu Linux. I have tried several versions of Ubuntu and derivitives.
They ALL have the ethernet dsl Connection Manager pre-set with the
Connection Name as Auto eth0. Again, this is not my "theory" - it is fact.
Run a Live Distro of Ubuntu Linux and you will see this as it does this ALSO
on the Live Distro which is like a demo mode without installing with
somewhat limited functionality but indeed has instant connectivity through
ethernet with the Connection Name Auto eth0 in the in the default Connection
Manager included in Ubuntu Linux.
"udev" concerns peripherals (add on hotplugging Printers, Drives, USB
Microphones, mobile computers, etc.) it is the Device Manager in the Linux
Operating System
udevFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udev
udev is the device manager for the Linux kernel. Primarily, it manages
device nodes in /dev. It is the successor of devfs and hotplug, which means
that it handles the /dev directory and all user space actions when
adding/removing devices, including firmware load.
MORE
Udev: Introduction to Device Management In Modern Linux System
http://www.linux.com/news/hardware/peripherals/180950-udev

The "ethernet card" is not a peripheral (add on device) as a NIC (Wireless
Modem Card - slot drawer) would be such as a Sierra Wireless Card with
Unlimited Monthly Wireless Internet subscription on the Wireless Internet.
The "ethernet card" is part of the main frame if you will. (I have a
computer degree in old IBM card computer monsters and like the older
descriptions) - main frame as a general slang phrase used here meaning for
the computer itself - with all that was built by self or included as at
purchase point including desktops, laptops, notebooks, netbooks.

you wrote.....

> I dialed up for years in Linux.
> I've used eth1 sometimes myself as far as your eth0 theory goes. Even when
> I only had one ethernet card in a machine! udev can be amazingly annoying
> like that.
> ttyS0 or ttyS1 are likely your modem ports. Unless it is an internal then
> it is likely they aren't. But that alone is NOT going to get you online!
> And you cannot just guess at it either. Well you can but you might be
> barking at the Moon if you do.
> Even back when dial up was the only game in town it was never automatic.

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From: "Paul" <pfrederick1@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 7:35 PM
To: <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to group with QUESTION

>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "g.linuxducks" <g.linuxducks@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> The whole point is I believe Linux is dial up ready out of the box just
>> like
>> it is ethernet ready (broadband/dsl) and wireless ready (wi fi). I have
>> found that only the ethernet ready connection settings are in by default.
>> To
>> use wireless or dial up, you must click new connection in the Update
>> Manager. Since I use it for wireless, I know that it is named wlan0 or
>> there
>> will never be anyway to ever get on wireless no matter how much stuff you
>> keep on installing. This is the same for dial up to my knowledge, and no
>> matter how much you keep installing it is not going to work until a new
>> connection is set up in connection manager which is the connection name I
>> am
>> trying to find.
>>
>> Like ethernet is named " Auto eth0 " by default or you will never got
>> online
>> no matter how much stuff is installed. It is 'tarded to think someone
>> would
>> make a computer and computer system that you have to put together
>> anything
>> to get an internet connection. They don't. All computers and systems come
>> internet connect ready period. The only exception is the wireless modem
>> that
>> may not be supported here there or everywhere. Technology changes does
>> effect wireless. The old v.92 dial up modem has been here since I have
>> been
>> on computers since 2001. All computers and operating systems come ready
>> connect for that as well as broadband/dsl. You generally cal in to the
>> ISP
>> to start subscription and any necessary connection settings and or
>> software.
>> This does not have anything to do with computer connectivity - it is an
>> ISP
>> issue.
>>
>> I am waiting for an answer myself from anyone who uses Linux dial up for
>> the
>> connection setting name.
>>
>> Unfortunately the world is moving towards broadband/dsl particularly in
>> the
>> USA. That is reflected in Linux as they for some reason expect that
>> everyone
>> going to use it is on broadband/dsl montly subscription. It is the ONLY
>> default connection set up out of the box for some reason and shows.
>> Personally I would never go back to dial up and would take satellite high
>> speed if broadband/dsl was not available in my area. Dial up is just to
>> ridiculous to use in todays computing I am sorry to say, but is reality.
>>
>> The only reason I am trying to hook up Linux dial up is like if I were to
>> change dsl providers I would have a dial up account free to use while
>> waiting which for one is 10 hours free a month from Juno.com.
>>
>> There has to be somebody out here that uses Linux on dial up ! will they
>> please answer !
>>
>
>
> I dialed up for years in Linux.
>
> I've used eth1 sometimes myself as far as your eth0 theory goes. Even when
> I only had one ethernet card in a machine! udev can be amazingly annoying
> like that.
>
> ttyS0 or ttyS1 are likely your modem ports. Unless it is an internal then
> it is likely they aren't. But that alone is NOT going to get you online!
> And you cannot just guess at it either. Well you can but you might be
> barking at the Moon if you do.
>
> Even back when dial up was the only game in town it was never automatic.
>


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