linuxgeek: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to group with QUESTION

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 06:59, g.linuxducks <g.linuxducks@gmail.com> wrote:
> The exact words were from me....
>
>>> The "ethernet card" is not a peripheral (add on device) as a NIC
>>> (Wireless
>>> Modem Card - slot drawer) would be such as a Sierra Wireless Card

I'm not going to argue too much semantics here, y'all are doing a good
enough job of that yourselves, but I'm seeing a fair bit of not
necessarily correct definition here... for example an "ethernet card"
IS a NIC. A NIC (the term stands for Network Interface Card) is
simply a network device. And since you can add in stand-alone
Ethernet devices as you can stand-alone wireless, they both fall into
the same category. The argument can be made that an onboard ethernet
device is not a "peripheral" but in reality, an onboard ethernet
device is no different than a PCI card, only they've pulled the
silicon off the separate PCI board and mated it directly to the
planar.

But you'll find that the guts of an onboard NIC are exactly the same
as the ones that come on separete PCI board versions.

> I think you introduced your self as a "rube" was it ? The vocabulary says
> "is not ... as a ...." (Clueless ? Here's a nickel someone gave me, you can
> have it back ! )
>
> [ I assume you did not distinguish the meaning is a built in ethernet as
> opposed to an external plug in wireless modem card given as an example - as
> there are printers and mobile computers and side drives and on and on which
> *are* external devices engaged via USB Ports (and Card Slots) and are the
> general accepted definition of *peripherals* which is to state the general
> accepted understanding of "peripheral" and computers are devices and gizmos
<SNIP wall o' text>

Anything that's not directly attached to the planar is a peripheral.
USB devices, PCI cards, etc. In End User land, this generally means
printers, scanners, monitors, etc, but it can also mean PCI/PCI-e
devices plugged in. (Think external RAID controller, etc)

>
> Your flames to date unattended by Moderation.....

There's not a ton of moderation, but I'd suggest y'all stop the
snipping back and forth and keep it topical to avoid moderation from
appearing.

> [When escalated, I guess someone gets banned. Good bye I will not answer the
> garbage trolling flame war you started via Personal Attack - apparently
> having tried to socially engineer me into one in a very immature way. Your
> war just ended HERE. You want the victor's flag - take it then. You win. I
> left a loser hun.

But you just did answer the "garbage trolling flame war". The correct
response would be to respond only to the technical facts or not at
all.

> # "...Here's a nickel kid go buy yourself a clue...."
> # "...So you're going to further elaborate on your total ignorance....."
> # "...Keep digging yourself in deeper rube. I've forgotten more than you'll
> ever know!"
>
> I thought such Personal Attacks were not allowed by Yahoo Group Owners !
>
> HOW RUDE ! ! ! To a new member ! ! ! (might have been here a couple weeks
> now.)
>
> gerald philly pa usa