linuxgeek: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to group with QUESTION

Hi Gerard,

MODEM – Someone from my other yahoo group helped me find the drivers for my modem and I downloaded them on a thumb drive from another machine.

UPDATE MANAGER - does not work unless I am connected to the internet. Tried it.

CONNECTION MANAGER – is not set up for dial-up. Major bug that a lot of people complained about. I checked the Ubuntu form on that. Here is what I got from the form:

Update for Ubuntu 10.04
Although wvdial and dependencies are included into CD of 10.04 are NOT installed by default! Bug#400573
You do not need to download them, just use the .iso or LiveCD or LiveUSB following the procedure below:

1. right click ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso and 'open with archive mounter'
(or mount LiveCD/LiveUSB)
2. right click on icon created (from 1) to 'browse folder'
3. create a folder on Desktop (ex. named 'wvdial')
4. copy into that folder all 4 .deb files that exist into .iso/LiveCD/LiveUSB
... /pool/main/w/wvdial
and /pool/main/w/wvstreams
5. use System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
and then from menu File > Add downloaded packages > double click Desktop and then the folder you created at point #3, click open, follow instructions to install

My version is 10.04.1. Do not know if that makes a difference.

Could not open the CD the way they described. Could not find the .deb files.

Wi Fi HOT SPOTS - The nearest one to me is 12 miles away in a valley. If all else fails, I can carry my desktop to my local library (they are wireless), but that is an overkill.

From: g.linuxducks
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 6:46 AM
To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to group with QUESTION

FEW MORE QUESTIONS.....

you wrote <<<1) I installed the modem software. >>> How with no
connection ?

*Have you ever run Update Manager yet ?* You will not be able to install
software and other features until the first use of *Update Manager *is
run with full security and recommended updates as well as neccessary
packages and fixes to bring the system up to date. When you first
install a computer system, it has basic connectivity and you always have
to run all the updates / upgrades / patches / fixes to get it up to
speed and operational as expected - all features now working. No
different in Linux.

BASIC CONNECTIVITY.... again basic connection to the internet and you
MUST run Update Manager and install all to get the system running full
featured. There are like debian packages thingies (like Windows
Installer) and the Ubuntu Software Center thingies and Synaptics
Packages Manager has to be installed to use that for additional packages
for softwares that has all kinds of extras and so on.

you wrote <<< a) Could not configure a Dial-Up connection using
Networking Option – Networking does not exist. >>>

What does that mean ? Ubuntu and Linux comes with a connection manager
pre-installed to gain instant internet access upon any install. This is
at the top tray bar about right center. Right click it for options to
set up a connection for like Wired, Broadband, Wi Fi Wireless etc. In
Ubuntu right click it (should be up and down little arrows icon) and
then click EDIT CONNECTIONS.

To begin, I believe this is the starting place for enacting dial up
connection. You click New Connection at Wired which is also where
ethernet connects with the name of that connection as " Auto eth0 ".

When you click new wireless connection you must name it " wlan0" .

For Dial Up you must name it ? ? ? I don't know never did it yet. We
need someone to tell us the name of the Dial Up connection in the
Connection Manager to enable dial up and set up the settings there. I do
not believe Linux wil work for dial up no matter what you do until this
new connection is named properly and there. I am sure of that because
every Linux I ever installed came out of the box with ethernet dsl named
and set to go. This is true as well with Debian for "net installs" and
you must have the wireless connection named "wlan0" to enable it or you
can not do that wirelessly which Debian has for a net install of Linux
wirelessly from as many as 30 wi fi hotspots around you.

So it goes, Linux is not going to work for a dial up connection until
you name the new connection to enable dial up whcih is going to
something like Auto ppp maybe - I don't know - just a wild stab in the
dark.

I will search this down but it will save us both a lot of trouble if an
existing member using dial up can tell us. Whatever you were saying
about "Networking" not working - this is the Connection Manager and
where you start on Linux. It is a very simple powerful Connection
Manager that gives instant access to the Internet upon install using dsl
out of the box. On Wi-Fi it is automatic as soon as you name the new
connection and I set in my Home Network name a nd security key and have
never had a problem on three different type computers. The Netbook
sniffs out all active connections anywhere I go wirelessly. I have never
had to add anything to the default Connection Manger in Linux though
there are several available.

I think this is your only problem - the dial up new connection name.
There is nothing in the pre-installed Linux Connection Manager missing
or not working at all. It comes ready and working out of the box (new
install).

gerald philly pa usa

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