Friday, October 28, 2011

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] New features in 11.04

You are right about klam. First point to make is that you do not need to
have any AV in Linux. The only reason to do so is to protect Windows
contacts. There are no Linux viruses in the wild and it is dubious that it
can harm your computer through Wine, which lacks many of the things that
viruses exploit such as Active X and it does not have the same structure in
the dummy c drive and you can copy your dummy c drive and just delete any
infected drive. AV software in Linux is a redundancy, IMO. You will get
people saying otherwise, but there is little conviction in them or their
argument.

The second point is that Clam is not rated very highly. Bit Defender is
given higher ratings. If you want to use Clam there is Clamtk and the
nautilus clam scanner extension in the repos.KDE has been quite aggressive
in weeding out older KDE 3 based apps like Klam and Klibido (usenet client).

Finally while I like your enthusiasm 11.04 is not considered a strong
representative of Ubuntu. It is an in-between version. 10.04 is great and
10.10 is better, but 11.04 used a GNOME 2.x base and built Unity on it
and nothing worked well and that turned people against Unity. They should
have kept GNOME 2.x and had Unity as a sidebar that people could play with.
Now with 11.10 Unity is where it belongs. It is build on top of GNOME 3 and
it uses either Mutter (Unity 2D) or Compiz (Unity) depending on your card's
capabilities. The transition from Mutter to Compiz in 11.04 was not good and
Unity 2D was not quite ready.

That is both my opinion and my experience. I read hundreds of feeds a day
and followed both Natty and Oneiric reviews closely and used both versions.
Most analysts had it right on. Unity is a good idea, but it was only half
baked in 11.04.

That is not to suggest that you should switch to 11.10 if you are happy.
Just know that Unity is getting better and it works decently in 11.10 and I
could see using it on a full time basis. I also believe that with the kind
of resources that Canonical has and their passion that Unity will (has)
surpass (ed) GNOME sHell and will be with front runner. People who doubt
Canonical and their resolve invariably are proven wrong. They may make
mistakes (in releasing something too early) but they get things done and
they do it right in the long term. They are the de facto leaders in Linux. I
say that as a happy Kubuntu user. I like the slower pace and being left
alone. Kubuntu is part of Canonical but KDE developers predominate. We are
the unloved child and that is fine by me. The KDE people are doing a great
job and Canonical is smart enough to get out of the way.

Roy

Using Kubuntu 11.10, 64-bit
Location: Canada


On 27 October 2011 17:51, g.linuxducks <g.linuxducks@gmail.com> wrote:

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>
>
> Hello Ian, Roy..... (just saying hi, still a new-ish member) I have a
> sort of "reading room" forum that I continually post stuff to like a
> squirrel hut. Indeed I had posted a good handful of in-the-news- items
> about Ubuntu 11.04 .
>
> I have been following Ubuntu for several years back to about the time
> they came out with Wubi as a "prototype" - not as some beta or
> something. I got that to run okay. Well things lead to Ubuntu being
> about the first, if not actually the first, to come out with the Netbook
> Edition for Linux - Ubuntu Linux. This was the Ubuntu Linux 10.04 LTS
> Netbook Edition and it worked like a charm on an EEE PC 900 Netbook I
> have. (Only 12 Gig solid state drive ! )
>
> Okay so said all that to say this. The Ubuntu 11.04 is the first release
> (and all after) now that has consolidated the download / install as an
> all-in-one download. There will no longer be a separate Netbook Edition.
> Installing 11.04 (and after) to a netbook will be automatically detected
> to install the correct optimized version for netbooks. Immediately below
> is an news article about this. As well it has been posted around by
> Ubuntu (maybe Canonical too) somewhere - most likely at their sites,
> forums, and blogs. (I didn't have those links). Below that article are a
> good handful of articles to check out for this new release, although now
> not the latest.
> BTW by the way I am running Ubuntu 11.04 myself for months now after
> upgrading from 10.10. I really like it. Navigation is so fast with
> simply the hover over / hide navigation of desktop links, bar. Very
> sleek and fast.
>
> ((( I can not find Klam antivirus for download which was available in
> previous versions in the Software Repository (Ubuntu Software). Clam
> antivirus is available. Klam works on KDE I believe but has a heck of
> interface with in house malware library and other features Clam does
> not. )))
>
> Ubuntu 11.04 will be Optimized for All Platforms
> Techtree.com
> Installing Ubuntu Linux on a netbook entailed a search for the latest
> version of the specially optimized netbook editions. This will be a
> thing of the past as Ubuntu is doing away with different optimizations
> of the base Ubuntu version. ...
>
> http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Ubtunu_1104_will_be_Optimised_for_All_Platforms/551-114764-580.html
>
> Ubuntu 11.04 - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
> ZDNet UK (blog)
> By JA Watson , 30 April, 2011 08:22 Various thoughts and adventures,
> including but not limited to Linux, assorted bits of hardware new and
> old, and occasionally Windows XP/Vista/7. I've just been reading the
> comments to my previous post, ...
>
> http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/jamies-mostly-linux-stuff-10006480/ubuntu-1104-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-10022334/
>
> Ubuntu 11.04 Adds OpenStack to Linux
> InternetNews.com
> By Sean Michael Kerner: More stories by this author: The Ubuntu 11.04
> Linux release is due out next week and with it will debut a new open
> source cloud platform.
> The Ubuntu 'Natty' release will include OpenStack, which is an open
> source effort that ...
>
> http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3931556/Ubuntu+1104+Adds+OpenStack+to+Linux.htm
>
> New Nvidia Linux Driver Supports Ubuntu 11.04 - Softpedia
> The driver will indeed support other linux distros as it always has.
> It supports the X.org version that Ubuntu uses and that is what the
> author of the ...
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-Nvidia-Linux-Driver-Supports-Ubuntu-11-04-196264.shtml
>
> Ubuntu 11.04 - Notes, Tips and Warnings
> ZDNet UK (blog)
> By JA Watson , 29 April, 2011 10:30 Various thoughts and adventures,
> including but not limited to Linux, assorted bits of hardware new and
> old, and occasionally Windows XP/Vista/7. As anyone who has any interest
> in Linux at all knows (and most of those ...
>
> http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/jamies-mostly-linux-stuff-10006480/ubuntu-1104-notes-tips-and-warnings-10022328/
>
> SOURCES
> http://linuxducks.free-forums.org/linux-news-and-views-vf14.html
> Home http://linuxducks.free-forums.org/index.php
>
>
> On 10/25/2011 08:23 AM, Ian wrote:
> >
> > Roy while I may not use them all I and perhaps other would like to know
> > what some of the more useful features in 11.04 do and where to find them.
> >
> > --
> > Ian
> >
>
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