Sunday, July 6, 2014

Re: rolling updates Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Thunderbird profile migration windows to Fedora 20

 

Thanks Roy, this is great info.

Justin


On Sunday, July 6, 2014 4:36 AM, "'linuxcanuck@yahoo.ca' linuxcanuck@yahoo.ca [LINUX_Newbies]" <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
KDE and GNOME are opposites and always have been. They are written in different languages QT vs GTK. KDE takes a different approach where everything is configurable yet integrated. Gnome takes the approach where things are simplified AKA dumbed down and things are more piecemeal.
They use different window managers and KDE has built in compositing and wallpaper cycling. To get similar features in Gnome you would have to use a third party app. KDE is very flexible. You can make it look and work anyway you want while Gnome tries to lock in users to a common desktop.
There are many rolling releases. Debian, Arch, Gentoo, etc. There are advantages and disadvantages. Rolling releases are often more convenient but are usually slower in development and more ponderous to use. Debian has different levels that users must be familiar with and Arch has its own foibles with its own repositories and user made ones that don't sync.
Personally I look forward to new releases and a fresh start every six months, but it is good to have choice because we are all different with different needs.
Roy

From: 'S.P. Maiorca' s.patrick.maiorca@gmail.com [LINUX_Newbies] <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com>;
To: <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com>;
Subject: rolling updates Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Thunderbird profile migration windows to Fedora 20
Sent: Sun, Jul 6, 2014 3:15:44 AM

 

On 07/04/2014 02:02 PM, 'linuxcanuck@yahoo.ca' linuxcanuck@yahoo.ca [LINUX_Newbies] wrote:
Mint used to be just Ubuntu that came out a month later with its own look and a couple of unique utilities. No longer.
Starting in the fall there will be a change. Ubuntu will do a six month release with a new core but Mint will not. It will use the same LTS core for the next three releases of Ubuntu. The separation will grow wider. Ubuntu will migrate to Mir and Mint will use Wayland.
There are other things to consider. You must reinstall to get Mint and then you lose the upgrade tool and must follow Mint's antiquated upgrade process which is basically a fresh installation every release.
Mint is based on Gnome and that means they must follow Gnome's dictates or adapt and Gnome is frustrating a lot of people these days.
Just go forward with your eyes open. This is more complex than it once was and will not get better any time soon. Mint and Ubuntu are growing apart and the gap may not be something the developers can bridge any longer. I think the move away from six month releases indicates they know they can't keep pace and bigger changes are to come.
I would not be surprised for Mint to leave Ubuntu and adopt a rolling release.
Roy

hi,
That is good to know especially since I was looking at Mint since I thought it was basically Cinbutu.
Right not I have both KDE and Cinnamon on my desktop. I know cinnamon is based on Gnome.
s- but coming from a windows background I've normally prefered KDE since the task bar is at the bottom by default.   I know there are ways to change things- but I don't want to mess with it if I can use KDE.
One of the issues that has been unclear to me with KDE and Gnome- is there any real differnce in the two in terms of API's or is the difference purely cosmetic? 
Also what are some distros that do the rolling updates? I believe Arch does it.
-SPM



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