Saturday, June 25, 2011

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to group with QUESTION

 

<<<I can only access the internet using dial-up. I want to switch from
using Windows XP to Ubuntu. >>>

So to start from the beginning so I can help, others, your SET UP is you
have a desktop XP PC and have already installed Ubuntu 10.04 in a dual
boot system ? Correct ? You have only Dial Up service - no broadband/dsl
or wireless modem card ? Correct ?

One reason for asking is the ability to install software/packages into
Linux without existing dial up connectivity yet. I have worked with CAB
Files install on mobile computers and 'tar'. Your Desktop does have a CD
Drawer - correct ?

Let's begin there for help knowing what we are looking at and by the way
the rest you have covered very well as to where things are now in
attempts already.

Yes, Linux out of the box is ethernet ready (broadband/dsl) and wireless
Wi-Fi has been my complete expereince with Debian, Ubuntu and a couple
others. I am/would be really surprised that a Linux distro is not dail
up ready out of the box - meaning install it and connect. Being on home
network my self leaving dial up years ago is why I am not up to par on
Linux dial up. This will be a big no-no if bad press gets a hold of the
idea that Linux out of the box can not connect to dial up without
installing software which takes an internet connection . There must be
connectivity here over looked because Linux is shipped pre-installed in
desktops. In other words, they would be a laughing stock to do such is
the bad press I mean. Who would buy one ? right.

gerald philly pa usa

On 06/25/2011 05:02 AM, g.linuxducks wrote:
> hiya Fred.... I don't want to mislead you in that I have only done
> ethernet (broadband/dsl) and wireless Wi-Fi connectivity so far on
> Linux. (Settled on Ubuntu Linux, have will try others here and there
> since Linux is even fun to use).
>
> You actually have more experience than I do at Linux dial up. The one
> point is though that I would throw a call into your current ISP and
> say like I have installed Linux and is that okay to use on my
> subscription. The simple point is that I am trying to convey is that
> the ISP specifically for Linux may not allow dial up connectivity.
> Doubtful, maybe. This is generally only dial up whereas does not
> generally come into play with ethernet and wi-fi home network.
>
> Like I said I don;t want to mislead you in that I have no first hand
> experience in setting up dial up yet with Linux. However, I am getting
> to know my way around on Linux very well and would rate myself as
> still an Intermediate user as opposed to an advanced user knowing the
> system like the back of their hand.
>
> Yes, running a terminal - do an app get - locate missing packages -
> doing a disk check.... yes I have experience with that so I am
> learning with you here as I am interested in my Notebook with Linux
> that has all three - ethernet, wireless, and dial up. It is good to
> have contingencies if something fails elsewhere.
>
> I am doing the run through over the weekend and how long this takes to
> actually set up my notebook for Linux dial up connectivity. Just being
> that little bit savvy and not afraid of opening a Terminal (like DOS
> Command Prompt in windows) and run commands has anyone well on their
> way to being an advanced user. No problem.
>
> For the record I will be connecting Ubuntu Linux 10.10.
>
> All it will take is the proper installation of any software not
> installed (add any packages), proper ISP settings, and a first check
> to make sure the dial up modem is in fact working - operational. Done.
>
> On 06/23/2011 05:01 PM, Fred Lieberman wrote:
>> Hi Gerald,
>>
>> Sorry for not getting back sooner. I have been pretty busy.
>>
>> 1) Setting up Dial-up connection in Ubuntu
>> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html
>>
>> I agree with you. It is a great tutorial with great pictures. The
>> other group did recommend this website to me. Unfortunately, it was
>> put together at the end of 2006. There is some indication on the web
>> that it is outdated for 10.04. I can now understand why I had a
>> difficult time using it.
>> a) Could not configure a Dial-Up connection using Networking Option –
>> Networking does not exist.
>> b) Did configure a Dial-Up Connection using pppconfig
>> c) Did the sudo adduser YOURNAMEHERE dip
>> d) Tried to do the sudo adduser YOURNAMEHERE dialout and it did not
>> accept it.
>> e) pon comcast does not work
>> f) Could not install GNOME PPP, because I could not dial out.
>>
>> So, that is where I stand.
>>
>> I downloaded Gnome ppp to a thumb drive but could not install it
>> because WV Dial was not in the machine. I found WV Dial, but there
>> were four versions. I am not sure which one of the four to use. To
>> install any of the four requires about 10 programs which should be on
>> the machine. Do not know how to verify if these programs already
>> exist on the computer.
>>
>>
>> One more note. Mepis is not a good choice for me, unless I add more
>> RAM. It requires a minimum of 1 G of RAM. On the other hand, it
>> does appear to have the programs installed for dial-up. At this
>> point, I want to explore Ubuntu before going on to something else.
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>> CORRECTED TUTORIAL LINK... i think the hot link in last message went
>> to linux.about.com or similar by mistake pasting....
>>
>> Setting up Dial-up connection in Ubuntu
>> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html
>>
>> Great tutorial with step by step pictures / screenshots.
>>
>> gerald philly pa usa
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My name is Fred. I am 68 and I live upstate NY.
>>> I can only access the internet using dial-up.
>>> I want to switch from using Windows XP to Ubuntu.
>>> My ISP will not help me as they quote unquote: do not support that
>>> product.
>>>
>>> MAJOR ISSUE - How do I access the internet using Ubuntu regardless
>>> of my ISP, while remaining on dial-up.
>>>
>>> One of the members of the Yahoo Ubuntu group suggested this group
>>> with the hope you may be able to solve my problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> BACKGROUND
>>>
>>> 1) Where I live, high speed internet is not available outside of
>>> satellite.
>>>
>>> 2) My desktop (2004 - XP) developed issues some of which I cleared
>>> up, some I have yet to clear up, some I do not trust on the machine.
>>>
>>> 3) Months ago, I installed Ubuntu 10.04.1 (dual boot) from a CD (DVD
>>> unit not working).
>>>
>>>
>>> PROBLEM
>>>
>>> I cannot dial out into the internet.
>>> The CD I used came without a dial-up software so I cannot use Ubuntu
>>> to dial out.
>>>
>>>
>>> WHAT WAS DONE
>>>
>>> 1) I installed the modem software.
>>> 2) I found the Terminal and configured a connection using - pppconfig.
>>> 3) Again, on the Terminal, I entered the command - sudo adduser
>>> YOURNAMEHERE dip - successfully.
>>> 4) When I tried to enter - sudo adduser YOURNAMEHERE dialout - it
>>> said I did not have to do it.
>>> 5) I tried to use - pon comcast - to access the internet and got
>>> nowhere.
>>>
>>> So, I tried another route. I downloaded Gnome ppp to a thumb drive
>>> but could not install it because WV Dial was not in the machine. I
>>> found WV Dial, but there were four versions. Do I assume the ppp
>>> version is the correct one or do I need all four versions. To
>>> install any of the four requires about 10 programs which should be
>>> on the machine.
>>>
>>> MY QUESTIONS
>>>
>>> 1) Is there a solution that works or should I abandon this process?
>>> 2) Is Mepis a better program to work with because it is US based and
>>> for that reason has a dial-up program already installed on it?
>>>
>>> I appreciate all the help I can get.
>>>
>>> Fred
>> [
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