continue to hit upon Ubuntu and try to steer Ubuntu users to Mint. Not fair,
but if that is the only way that Mint can gain users then it says a lot
about Mint and its users. It is certainly more telling than Distrowatch page
rankings. We have not heard the last of this because Mint users who spread
misinformation, but for now I will not offer a further rebuttal to save
others from the pain.
Roy
Using Kubuntu 11.04, 64-bit
Location: Canada
On 24 June 2011 12:44, loyal_barber <loyal_barber@yahoo.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Roy <linuxcanuck@...> wrote:
> >
> > I do not hate Mint or Debian. It is Mint users that are giving it a bad
> > name, just as is the case with Debian.
>
> I must respectfully disagree. When people ask about distros, we
> always seem to get a diatribe about Mint and Debian at the very
> least from you. Users express why they like and use distros and
> you jump in with a diatribe. It is not particularly helpful and
> is sure getting to be tiring reading.
>
>
> > If I was part of the Mint community
> > then I would resent that. If the only advice that people can offer is to
> > switch distros then that is not helpful.
>
> Again, the OP *ASKED* about other distros. Dude, please read and
> comprehend.
>
> <snip> My point is that he has already
>
> > installed Ubuntu and needs help. You do not address the fact that Mint is
> > Ubuntu with a few frills
>
> Actually, I believe my statement was I use Mint because it just
> works. The OP had stated they were looking for something that
> just works. I actually like to think of Mint as Ubuntu with some
> stupidity removed.
>
> <snip>
>
> > As for not reading the original message, I do not get it Gmail and I
> answer
> > hundreds of help requests
>
> Here is a thought: If you don't have time to read the OP then please
> stop the diatribes having little or nothing to do with the original
> request. Get a decent mail application. There are plenty out there.
> They might even allow you to trim your post and stop always the
> lazy reply method of top posting MS Windows style. When you are
> actually helping solve problems, your posts are generally very good.
> When someone is asking about things like Distros, your posts are
> generally worthless two page soap boxes.
>
> <snip>
>
>
> > Mint is a replacement for Ubuntu for people who do not care about
> licensing
> > and want convenience. It is not better.
>
> I must stringently disagree. While Mint IS a replacement for
> Ubuntu, to assume everyone who uses it for licensing is definitely
> wrong. I use it because I like the interface better and because
> when I do upgrades, I just want my distro to work on my main
> work machine.
>
> <snip>
>
>
> > BTW, I do not use Ubuntu. I defend it because it is worth defending. It
> is
> > being original and showing leadership.
>
> And if it was perfect there would be no Distros based on Ubuntu.
> Some of the leadership as you call it is to some poor decisions.
> The plethora of Ubuntu based distros shows there are many who
> agree with me that "Ubuntu fixed" is a good idea.
>
> <snip>
>
>
> > When Mint users desist from spreading the idea that Mint is better than
> > Ubuntu then I will stop correcting them.
>
> If Mint is not in some way better than Ubuntu, then why has it
> recently been a close second to Ubuntu on Distro-Watch? You don't
> think Mint is better. We get that. Get over it. Many of us do
> believe Mint is better. If Mint does not offer something better
> than Ubuntu there would be no reason for Mint to exist. Everyone
> should just go with Ubuntu. We are now into a matter of opinion
> and you seem unable to recognize that. You don't think anything
> about Mint is better. That is an opinion. I think that Mint is
> better than Ubuntu. I am willing to admit that is an opinion and
> apparently I am joined by literally thousands of people that want
> their main machine to just work.
>
> >
> > Roy
> >
> <snip>
>
> > > > Some here will say that Mint is the answer, but they misread the
> > > question.
> > >
> > > Actually, Roy, you are the one that misread the question
>
> I notice you did not respond to this or even pay attention to this.
> You misread the original post and continued distro-bashing which
> is what you always do. I for one am tired of your distro-bashing
> especially since you trot out the same thing every time.
>
> <snip>
>
>
> > > original post:
> > >
> > > "I have recently upgraded to the latest Ubuntu and thoroughly dislike
> it.
> > > I've
> > > used Ubuntu for years and am not up on all of the current distros out
> > > there, and
> > > I would like to know if it would be better to downgrade to 10.10 or to
> look
> > > for
> > > another distro? If another distro, which one?"
> > >
>
> <snip>
>
> My apologies to others for having to read this minor flame war. I
> spent most of the time since the OP reading pages by Roy that I feel
> were totally not helpful to the OP. When I posted simply that I use
> Mint because it just works, Roy felt obligated to jump on that
> for some reason.
>
> Regards,
> Loyal
>
>
>
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