Wednesday, December 8, 2010

[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Linux is awesome

 

I just wanted to share my experience of migrating from Windows to Linux ... not start a war!! LOL!!

All kidding aside -- I like the Linux GUI and the CLI interface for doing more admin tasks. I understand that Linux Mint may not be the best for doing it, but for a newbie like myself, isn't a start better than not trying at all? I want to take it slow and get the most out of it. I have read online articles about the CLI and Linux commands and i am finding it very interesting and enjoyable!!

One day I hope to be on par with the experts and custom make an installation like Gentoo or Arch Linux. Today -- I am just a newbie seeking some advise and sharing my new found love of Linux!!

ironmantis7x

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Roy <linuxcanuck@...> wrote:
>
> This is a bit harsh. I don't see the GUI as lipstick on a pig. Linux is far
> from a pig and some people like lipstick, or so I am told. :) The GUI is
> good for many users. They would never use a computer otherwise. Besides it
> gives programmers something to do and makes their work accessible to the
> masses.
>
> I for one will never buy a Mac even if they were the only computer maker
> left. I love open source and free software and Apple is at the exact
> opposite. They are freedom haters that take from open source and give
> nothing back, worse than Microsoft. I say this as someone whose first
> computer was an Apple II. It was open and free as you like then Jobs killed
> it off and came up with a closed computer for non techies and called it the
> Mac. Yuck!
>
> So if Linux is for me. I love everything about it. My new computer came with
> Windows 7 and it is better than XP which is all that I can say is good about
> it. I booted it up a few times and played with it, but it does not work the
> way I want it to. Linux does because I have real choice from the
> distribution to the desktop environment to the file system it uses.
>
> Trial by release? What OS does not? Did you follow Microsoft's problems with
> Vista at all? Even Windows 7 which is just Vista re-done properly is filled
> with problems. Have you heard of patch Tuesday when you can have 50 patches
> in one day? Everybody patches, including Apple, and they control all of the
> variables, hardware and software. In comparison Linux is a breeze, IMO.
> Patches are often released the same day whereas Windows users have to live
> with them for weeks before Microsoft (same for Apple) admits it and then
> more weeks before they issue a patch. Linux is transparent. At least you
> know what problems exist because everything is out in the open.
>
> I love the fact that you can still work at a basic level or use a GUI with
> all of the bells and whistles. We have choice and not having choice is what
> is bad. Things are headed in directions that Linux is ideally suited and
> away from the desktop where it has had marginal success. The future is all
> about servers and devices. Servers are about the commandline and devices are
> about GUIs. Both are here to stay for a long time.
>
> Roy
>
> Using Kubuntu 10.10, 64-bit
> Location: Canada
>
>
> On 7 December 2010 10:28, Paul <pfrederick1@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Sorry, Roy, I just think you are wrong. I think you read what
> > > you wanted into his reply. I am sure I am doing the same. That
> > > said, I would NEVER recommend Arch to a new user. Would I recommend
> > > Arch later? Absolutely. Again, walk before you run or better
> > > stated: ready, aim, fire, not ready, fire, aim. There is enough to
> > > get used to in Linux using Ubuntu or Mint first. Suggesting the user
> > > would be better suited to go to Arch or Slackware first is an
> > > excellent way to get the new user to convert back to Windows and
> > > say, "Linux is just too hard to learn."
> > >
> > > Loyal
> > >
> >
> > You know back in 95 it was all difficult but somehow we managed to survive.
> > Or more likely you don't! I have to admit I do learn a lot with the more
> > automated newer flashier distros out there today.
> >
> > I learn things like lipstick on pigs does not in fact make pigs any more
> > attractive to us real pig lovers. Quite the opposite in fact.
> >
> > The Linux way is fire, fire, fire, then forward observers send back bug
> > reports, if any live through the ordeal. Trial by release.
> >
> > Maybe you should think long and hard about all your misconceptions relating
> > to Linux and evaluate if it is the right OS for you? Your warm and fuzzy
> > candyland ain't what Linux is all about. Go buy a Mac if that is what you're
> > after. I have been hearing a lot of good things about that Windows 7 stuff
> > lately too...
> >
> > Linux is too hard to learn all of it, has been since about the first time
> > Linus accepted a patch, and it is getting harder everyday too!
> >
> > Now if you'll excuse me I need a custom kernel for my new machine here. And
> > no it ain't easy!
> >
> > export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=4
> >
> > $ time fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=3:giga.1.0 kernel_image
> >
> > .
> > .
> > .
> >
> > real 19m19.001s
> > user 63m6.617s
> > sys 5m41.477s
> >
> > Thats right, we bad!
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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