nature to set things straight, at least as I see it. Linux has been good to
me and it is a way to pay back in the best way that I can.
You will find Linux users tend to be protective because the only way it is
spread is by word of mouth. We may seem thin skinned, but we are constantly
barraged with FUD from the big boys at Microsoft and Apple. Windows users
tend to not be as passionate in the first place as Apple users and certainly
not as much as Linux and they do not get FUD campaigns aimed at them. That
can make anyone defensive.
No harm done. I hope that you enjoy Linux. People here are very helpful and
you can learn a lot. I've been at this for ten years and am still learning.
That is not meant to discourage you. I am a slow learner. ;)
Roy
Using Kubuntu 10.10, 64-bit
Location: Canada
On 8 December 2010 10:10, ironmantis7x <ironmantis7x@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I just wanted to share my experience of migrating from Windows to Linux ...
> not start a war!! LOL!!
>
> All kidding aside -- I like the Linux GUI and the CLI interface for doing
> more admin tasks. I understand that Linux Mint may not be the best for doing
> it, but for a newbie like myself, isn't a start better than not trying at
> all? I want to take it slow and get the most out of it. I have read online
> articles about the CLI and Linux commands and i am finding it very
> interesting and enjoyable!!
>
> One day I hope to be on par with the experts and custom make an
> installation like Gentoo or Arch Linux. Today -- I am just a newbie seeking
> some advise and sharing my new found love of Linux!!
>
> ironmantis7x
>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com <LINUX_Newbies%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Roy <linuxcanuck@...> wrote:
> >
> > This is a bit harsh. I don't see the GUI as lipstick on a pig. Linux is
> far
> > from a pig and some people like lipstick, or so I am told. :) The GUI is
> > good for many users. They would never use a computer otherwise. Besides
> it
> > gives programmers something to do and makes their work accessible to the
> > masses.
> >
> > I for one will never buy a Mac even if they were the only computer maker
> > left. I love open source and free software and Apple is at the exact
> > opposite. They are freedom haters that take from open source and give
> > nothing back, worse than Microsoft. I say this as someone whose first
> > computer was an Apple II. It was open and free as you like then Jobs
> killed
> > it off and came up with a closed computer for non techies and called it
> the
> > Mac. Yuck!
> >
> > So if Linux is for me. I love everything about it. My new computer came
> with
> > Windows 7 and it is better than XP which is all that I can say is good
> about
> > it. I booted it up a few times and played with it, but it does not work
> the
> > way I want it to. Linux does because I have real choice from the
> > distribution to the desktop environment to the file system it uses.
> >
> > Trial by release? What OS does not? Did you follow Microsoft's problems
> with
> > Vista at all? Even Windows 7 which is just Vista re-done properly is
> filled
> > with problems. Have you heard of patch Tuesday when you can have 50
> patches
> > in one day? Everybody patches, including Apple, and they control all of
> the
> > variables, hardware and software. In comparison Linux is a breeze, IMO.
> > Patches are often released the same day whereas Windows users have to
> live
> > with them for weeks before Microsoft (same for Apple) admits it and then
> > more weeks before they issue a patch. Linux is transparent. At least you
> > know what problems exist because everything is out in the open.
> >
> > I love the fact that you can still work at a basic level or use a GUI
> with
> > all of the bells and whistles. We have choice and not having choice is
> what
> > is bad. Things are headed in directions that Linux is ideally suited and
> > away from the desktop where it has had marginal success. The future is
> all
> > about servers and devices. Servers are about the commandline and devices
> are
> > about GUIs. Both are here to stay for a long time.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > Using Kubuntu 10.10, 64-bit
> > Location: Canada
> >
> >
> > On 7 December 2010 10:28, Paul <pfrederick1@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sorry, Roy, I just think you are wrong. I think you read what
> > > > you wanted into his reply. I am sure I am doing the same. That
> > > > said, I would NEVER recommend Arch to a new user. Would I recommend
> > > > Arch later? Absolutely. Again, walk before you run or better
> > > > stated: ready, aim, fire, not ready, fire, aim. There is enough to
> > > > get used to in Linux using Ubuntu or Mint first. Suggesting the user
> > > > would be better suited to go to Arch or Slackware first is an
> > > > excellent way to get the new user to convert back to Windows and
> > > > say, "Linux is just too hard to learn."
> > > >
> > > > Loyal
> > > >
> > >
> > > You know back in 95 it was all difficult but somehow we managed to
> survive.
> > > Or more likely you don't! I have to admit I do learn a lot with the
> more
> > > automated newer flashier distros out there today.
> > >
> > > I learn things like lipstick on pigs does not in fact make pigs any
> more
> > > attractive to us real pig lovers. Quite the opposite in fact.
> > >
> > > The Linux way is fire, fire, fire, then forward observers send back bug
> > > reports, if any live through the ordeal. Trial by release.
> > >
> > > Maybe you should think long and hard about all your misconceptions
> relating
> > > to Linux and evaluate if it is the right OS for you? Your warm and
> fuzzy
> > > candyland ain't what Linux is all about. Go buy a Mac if that is what
> you're
> > > after. I have been hearing a lot of good things about that Windows 7
> stuff
> > > lately too...
> > >
> > > Linux is too hard to learn all of it, has been since about the first
> time
> > > Linus accepted a patch, and it is getting harder everyday too!
> > >
> > > Now if you'll excuse me I need a custom kernel for my new machine here.
> And
> > > no it ain't easy!
> > >
> > > export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=4
> > >
> > > $ time fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=3:giga.1.0 kernel_image
> > >
> > > .
> > > .
> > > .
> > >
> > > real 19m19.001s
> > > user 63m6.617s
> > > sys 5m41.477s
> > >
> > > Thats right, we bad!
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
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