knickers in a knot over semantics. Obviously there are some Redhat fans
here. So why aren't you answering him instead of debating what Redhat is
for. Teach him if you must. I only suggested that he might find help at
Linuxquestions where I know there are Redhat users in abundance.
Roy
On 17 May 2010 17:53, J <dreadpiratejeff@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 17:38, Roy <linuxcanuck@gmail.com<linuxcanuck%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > Redhat is MEANT for servers by the companies own admission. They have
> > expressly stated that they do intend to get into the desktop market.
> Fedora
> > is their desktop initiative. As you deviate from what Redhat is intended
> > then you are distorting their mission and the Linux environment. Redhat
> does
> > lots of things differently from other distributions and many Linux skills
> > are not transferable directly to Redhat because Redhat likes it that way.
> > Their money is made in support and training. These differences would only
> > confuse others.
>
> Indeed. However there are two different things here... if one is
> looking to "just learn Linux" then the correct answer is to just pick
> a distro and go, then switch when you decide the one you chose isn't
> what you need or want. If one is looking to learn for career
> purposes, then one needs to learn Red Hat, or SuSE, or Ubuntu
> (becoming big in the desktop/laptop/mobile world).
>
> FWIW, Red Hat WAS in the desktop market, realized the real money was
> in Enterprise, and also realized that enough of their customers were
> running RHEL as desktop OSs (employees at RH run RHEL and Fedora as
> their desktop OS) that they could make a new revenue stream w/
> enterprise desktops.
>
> There is also no real magic difference between the two either. The
> only difference is package selection. Beyond that, RHEL on the Server
> is the same as RHEL on the desktop or laptop. As I said, I've run
> RHEL for years as a desktop OS.
>
> > My point was that any discussion of servers here would be way over the
> head
> > of most newbies who come here for desktop help. Sure you can help him
> learn
> > Redhat here, but there are better places because you are more likely to
> find
> > like minded individuals there. You could argue that Linux newbies would
> > include Redhat, but his question wasn't specific, but rather on how to
> learn
> > Redhat. So I pointed him in another direction. I don't see that any harm
> was
> > done as he can still ask questions here if he has something specific.
>
> Not necessarily. There are also Linux newbies that are picking this
> up because their companies are switching the historically Unix or
> Windows based servers over to Linux. OR, they're considering doing
> so, and testing the waters, and end up in places like this as well.
> Just as there are also total newbies who are just looking to learn
> something other than Windows.
>
> But this isn't the Total_Linux_Newbies group, it's just Newbies. And
> there have been some decidedly NON-Newbie discussions on this list in
> the past, and will continue to be in the future, anyway.
>
> > I notice that you did not answer his query but questioned my answer. I
> find
> > that peculiar. Are we nitpicking?
>
> Then you didn't read far enough...
>
> >> For absolute Newbies, however, I do usually recommend Ubuntu, but
> >> CentOS runs just as well.
>
> Maybe not a terribly specific answer, but his question was also not
> terribly specific, and I gave him at least two starting points to
> google and star exploring: CentOS and Ubuntu.
>
>
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