I do not want to turn this into an Ubuntu love fest. I also can see this
degenerating into a competition among distros and desktops. Enjoy the
choice. I think that Canonical has done much to broaden that choice. It is
driving much innovation and attracting new users to Linux. Whether you like
it or not is another question. Shuttleworth is not only putting his money
where his mouth is but he is also stepping up and showing leadership where
previously there was none. I commend him and Canonical for that, but do not
agree with all they do.
BTW, WUBI was not begun by Canonical. It was an independent project that
was later incorporated into Ubuntu. The first installers were just
a simple exe file that you downloaded from their own site. A year
later Canonical saw the value and put it onto their disk starting with 8.04.
Ubuntu is the top desktop distribution by far and probably the top with all
things included, but that becomes harder to prove. Debian could just as
easily lead in that department. Debian is ahead when it comes to servers
and to other architectures. Fedora is the second top desktop distribution.
Curiously Linux Mint which is top on Distrowatch is well behind in terms of
actual usage on the desktop and it has no presence elsewhere. This is not
meant as a knock on Mint, but rather to keep it in perspective. DW numbers
mean nothing.
I have a bit of a problem with Canonical. Recently the Raspberry Pi (Google
it) wanted to run Ubuntu. But it has an older ARM processor. Ubuntu told
them not only would they not support that architecture but asked them to
stop using Ubuntu altogether. Fedora stepped up and provided an OS and now
Arch has done the same. I don't think that Canonical is showing wisdom and
it makes me question what they are doing. The problem might be with their
own hardware aspirations with Ubuntu TV, but it could have been handled
better. It leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.
http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/raspberry-pi-interview-eban-upton-reveals-all/
For privacy and security, I use Tails. https://tails.boum.org/
Roy
Using Kubuntu 11.10, 64-bit
Location: Canada
On 10 March 2012 21:50, g.linuxducks <g.linuxducks@gmail.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Additionally, Ubuntu has been a pioneer as far as being first to develop
> the one click over the internet install of Linux (Ubuntu , Wubi
> Installer) and as a software that runs dual boot. The prototype of that
> came out years ago.
>
> Ubuntu was virtually first to develop and release the Netbook edition of
> Linux - netbook optimized, and further has incorporated install
> detection from desktop to netbook versions automatically now....
> ARCHIVED Mar 11, 2011
> Ubuntu 11.04 will be Optimized for All Platforms
>
> http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Ubtunu_1104_will_be_Optimised_for_All_Platforms/551-114764-580.html
>
> Numbers indeed seem wrong. Debian gets continually reported as "most
> popular" with Ubuntu second place. I think it is the other way around
> and specifically because of the netbook craze additionally. There are
> several netbooks in our families. Debian posts the warning that
> proprietary drivers (wireless connectivity) may need be purchased for
> their netbook compatible releases. This has not been true for Ubuntu at
> all and I use it on two netbooks also.
>
> Ubuntu has consistently remained a rock hard stable and secure distro,
> and no doubt from the experience of using it - it's gained popularity.
>
> < < < I have to be honest lately I've been finding updates more annoying
> than anything else. > > >
> As far as rants about updates, you should consider the insecurity (no
> FUD here) of running a computer with no changes for years. There is no
> such thing. Security holes are continually found in ALL softwares that
> get updated as "code hardened" against malware and hackers. Do you have
> any idea of the cost of this ? If it were not necessary why do they all
> spend it ? Common sense prevail.
>
> It would be nice if all computers just were fine and complete right out
> of the box until they die. It is not the nature of computers at all.
> They were never designed as such neither ANY software that runs on them.
>
> NEW....
> News - Got privacy? Ubuntu Linux 12.04 will help ensure it.
>
> http://www.itworld.com/software/257368/got-privacy-ubuntu-linux-1204-will-help-ensure-it
> ITworld.com - 13 hours ago
> Specifically, Ubuntu Linux 12.04 "Precise Pangolin"--now in beta--will
> introduce new, OS-wide privacy settings that give users a way to delete
> portions of ...
>
> TRY
> Linux Security for Beginners - Table of Contents
> http://www.linuxtopia.org/LinuxSecurity/
> http://linuxducks.free-forums.org/linux-security-information-vf10.html
>
> Patch/Fix/Updates - Upgrades are a continual computer system and
> software function. Without this or if it was pay per - there would not
> be an internet as we know it. See security news also where the industry
> even predicted momentarily it would end because of cyber crime over
> running it and all the industry - just over 24 months ago. It was a real
> moment in time. Cloud Computing products are answering the new decade.
> Don't call that just the Windows nightmare either. there has been enough
> of Linux botnets and mobiles. Without Windows there would not be an
> internet either as we know it - as 90 percent is windows os = money to
> run it all means users in the hundreds of millions to even be feasible.
>
> gerald philly pa usa / Home:
> http://linuxducks.webs.com/
> http://www.bluecollarpc.us/
>
> On 3/10/2012 7:45 AM, Roy wrote:
> > This is total FUD.
> >
> > Ubuntu has the financial backing of Mark Shuttleworth and it is making
> > money. He is committed to the project and has the money to stay long term
> > and the drive to take Ubuntu places. It is not making much but it is
> > beginning to be profitable. Secondly, Ubuntu is more diversified than any
> > other distribution. It does more than just the desktop. It is into
> mobile,
> > TV, servers and the cloud. Wikipedia runs on Ubuntu. Distrowatch numbers
> > are wrong. Ubuntu is strong. Figures from Wikimedia based on actual usage
> > show that Ubuntu is fairly consistent and has a large lead over anybody
> > else, including Mint which is a small player.
> >
> > LTS has been extended from three to five years for desktops. Ubuntu cut
> > financial backing for one Kubuntu developer. That was their total
> > commitment. Kubuntu has always had minority support from Canonical. It
> was
> > led by KDE and has been for years. You are reading far too much into a
> > simple decision to focus on Ubuntu and make Kubuntu the same as Xubuntu
> and
> > the others.
> >
> > People enjoy spreading FUD about Ubuntu. I am not defending Ubuntu which
> I
> > do not use (Kubuntu user), but am trying to keep it real instead of
> looking
> > for things that are not there and spreading them as truths to cause fear,
> > uncertainty and doubt. FUD serves no purpose. It divides where there is
> no
> > division and weakens all of Linux and not just Ubuntu.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > Using Kubuntu 11.10, 64-bit
> > Location: Canada
> >
> >
> > On 9 March 2012 21:57, Paul<pfrederick1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "G.LinuxDucks"<g.linuxducks@...>
> >> wrote:
> >>> <<<10.04 is the LTS version right?>>>
> >>> Yes it is. The next Ubuntu LTS (Long Term Suport) is 12.04 due April, I
> >>> believe. It will be supported for five years this time is reported.
> >> If Ubuntu is even around 5 years from now. The history of Linux is full
> of
> >> here today gone tomorrow distribution stories. After what I just saw
> happen
> >> to Kubuntu I'd have to say the fate of Ubuntu as a whole is even more
> >> precarious than that of some other amateur maintained distributions.
> >>
> >> It's a jungle, not always a kind one either. There is an excellent
> chance
> >> I'll still be running Linux 5 years from now, what distribution though
> I've
> >> honestly no idea. I'm souring somewhat of what I am running today in
> fact.
> >> I think I want to get back to a simpler setup that allows me finer
> grained
> >> control than deb based systems seem to provide easily.
> >>
> >> I am finding my setups are much more static today than they were in the
> >> past so maybe package management isn't nearly as important for me as it
> >> used to be? If this is the case it would be a paradigm shift from my
> >> earlier philosophy that would greatly impact my distribution choice.
> >>
> >> I have to be honest lately I've been finding updates more annoying than
> >> anything else. New useful software isn't even coming out at a pace that
> >> makes complicated package management worthwhile for me to deal with
> either.
> >> What I'm saying is once I've a system laid up how I like it I prefer it
> to
> >> stay as is.
> >>
> >> Really, if I wanted to be forced to change my OS every 5 years I'd run
> >> Windows :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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