On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Bev Merrow merrowb@yahoo.com [LINUX_Newbies] <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Thanks guys. I'm not opposed to the command line. Used it frequently administrating Windows. Despite MS saying DOS was dead eons ago, the command line remained one of the fastest and sometimes only way to fix things. I still use the command line as an end user and even run a few batch files. Also still remember a few network commands -- useful when my ISP says my line is working fine but I know it isn't. I don't mind the command line, when I know what I'm doing. I did take an Unix online course about 15 years ago. I'm hoping LInux is similar enough to make some of that education resurface from the depths of my memory.
For what it's worth, MS may have said eons ago that DOS was dead *(I remember those days), they kept a shell in Windows and then PowerShell came along (I've only used that once or twice, but it seemed pretty nice) and now you can run a full Linux shell natively inside Windows
Note, it's NOT an emulated environment like CygWIN, but a native bash shell that even allows package installation via Apt, and from what I've been told, most if not all CLI apps work, but the X apps do not (since Windows GUI is not an X environment).
So even on Windows, the shell is not going away.
Mostly this box will hosting my applications. I need the big screen attached to my PC for plotting embroidery points and knitting stitches etc. Email and surfing I'm happy to do in my Lazy Boy on my Android tablet (which politely informs me some of my applications want to update and never hijacks my tablet to force feed OS updates).Really like the idea of a bootable stick, but will I be able to test my programs?
No. The bootable USB stick will really only let you try out the various distributions. You MAY be able to get WINE running on one, but I would imagine it would be painful as the live environments on those USB sticks runs in memory and swapping things in and out can be really slow when you get complex applications running.
Best bet would, IMO, be to try some on USB stick to see which one has the features you like. Then do a dual-boot setup, so you can try getting things set up under an emulator while still being able to boot into Windows as you like to run them there. Then, one day, like most of us, you'll finally delete that Windows partition completely and reclaim the space for Linux.
I downloaded both 32 and 64 bit versions of Mint. I know that one of my applications is definitely based on the 64 bit environment and another for 32. Both play well on Win 8 and did on Win10 before the Surface Pro tablet died. Would you recommend the 32 or 64 bit Mint version? I downloaded 'Sarah' but the Fine Manual I found is for "Cinnamon". Did I get the right manual? If not, please tell me where it is. I'm looking at Cnet and Linuxmint.com. I no longer download from just anywhere. I've been part of a robot net and had my computer held hostage. Don't want to do that ever again
I didn't read all of Scott's reply, but if one of them is a 64bit program, you need, I imagine, the 64bit version of Linux to run the 64bit version of WINE to run 64Bit Windows apps (bear in mind, I haven't run WINE in ages, so I'm just recalling from memory and that's foggy at this point). BUT honestly, if your computer is 64Bit capable, generally you don't lose much, if anything by running the 64bit OS anyway. 32bit apps will run fine on 64bit OS installs. (Again, YMMV when it comes to applying that to a Windows Emulator).
I'm lots of talk right now. I will be reading until about Monday because I have a trip planned this week. I'd rather start and work my way through installing Linux rather than doing some now; putting it aside to do the rest 4 or 5 days from now. Besides manuals are heavy reading. I'm out of practice with heavy reading.sdBevPS in time will be looking at the VM and admin links provided.
From: "Loyal Barber loyal_barber@yahoo.com [LINUX_Newbies]" <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com>
To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] So tired of MS
On 09/06/2016 04:22 PM, Jerry in Michigan bearjercares@gmail.com [LINUX_Newbies] wrote:
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I have a couple of suggestions for both of you. BTW, I use Linux Mint and have been for many years. I actually at times like the command line. Most of the time though I feel like just getting the job done for daily stuff so I installed:
Webmin: http://www.webmin.com/
Which is a browser based admin program for Linux. I have used it on many, many flavors of Linux and it just works like a charm. So, need to add users to the "Windows" share on my home file server? Go to Webmin->server->samba. Very quick and I don't have to remember arcane commands. I also use it for my Linux laptop. In that case, I just connect to the local site (did not explicitly install a web server) and do much of the day to day stuff there.
As for Quicken, there is a much better web based alternative:
https://www.youneedabudget.com/
Until last year, they had a Windows based product that worked very well with WINE. They are much better than quicken IMHO because the program and live classes teach you effective budgeting. They also have apps for Android and iPhone which help you to record expenditures right when they happen plus you KNOW if you have money budgeted for that item you suddenly want to buy on impulse.
Loyal
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