Monday, September 30, 2013

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Distro downloads and burns

 

Did you just burn the iso or did you burn an image?
Jim wa9arb



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In the past I have downloaded supposedly live iso files of os's and tried to make a bootable cd/dvd. The site assured me that the file would boot. When I burn it though It makes a folder with the system files inside and the bios cannot find the kernel. I am concluding that I am using the wrong burn software(roxio) or selecting the wrong options. Can someone suggest an alternate way to get a distro installed?


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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Distro downloads and burns

 

I used my wife's Windows 7 with no extra programs loaded and there was
an option to burn an iso, but I don't remember where.

Martin Rosenfeld

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Distro downloads and burns

 

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 02:33:52PM -0700, adeucalion@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> In the past I have downloaded supposedly live iso files of os's and tried to
> make a bootable cd/dvd. The site assured me that the file would boot. When I
> burn it though It makes a folder with the system files inside and the bios
> cannot find the kernel. I am concluding that I am using the wrong burn software
> (roxio) or selecting the wrong options. Can someone suggest an alternate way to
> get a distro installed?

You can try using unetbootin. (I'm assuming that you are doing this from
Windows.) http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

You can't just copy the iso to a CD Rom. I'm unfamiliar with how Windows
does it, but there should be an option to create an image, rather than just
copy the iso file.

Several distributions also offer images that can be copied directly to USB
sticks, if that's an option for you.

If you mention which distribution you want to try, someone will probably
have some experience with that specific distribution. Also mention what
system you're using to burn it.

Lastly, though you probably know this, some computers only have a CD drive,
and a person tries to burn a DVD image to a CD which won't work.

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[LINUX_Newbies] Distro downloads and burns

 

In the past I have downloaded supposedly live iso files of os's and tried to make a bootable cd/dvd. The site assured me that the file would boot. When I burn it though It makes a folder with the system files inside and the bios cannot find the kernel. I am concluding that I am using the wrong burn software(roxio) or selecting the wrong options. Can someone suggest an alternate way to get a distro installed?

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Saturday, September 28, 2013

[nslu2-linux] Drive full, /share/data contains copies of it self

 

Hi

My 500GB dive is suddenly full and the /share/hdd/data contains copies of the installations i.e. /share/data/hdd/share/data/hdd...share/data...

Is there an explaination for this?

Kristoffer

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Friday, September 27, 2013

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Wireless adapters for linux - ubuntu 12.04 LTS

 

If I get what you are asking, is that you have a desktop computer and wish to add wireless connectivity via a wireless adaptor as the following? ....
The Desktop Wireless Adapter Difference: USB vs. PCI
 
Generally all netbooks, notebooks, laptops – especially older ones, not brand new – seem to all work with popular Linux Distros (versions –debian ubuntu etc). I found that if you run the Live demo mode of a Linux distro on one of these with wireless connectivity on, that if compatible Linux will connect unless it is a protected network as with WEP, WPA, WPA and you have to enter the pass key first in the little connection manager and name of station – like a Home Network sample name Dog House.
 
If you are indeed looking to add a wireless adaptor to a desktop rather, I was just ready to do this with a family member who has an XP (Windows) desktop. Unfortunately, their antenna got broken. Since Windows XP is ending support forever in months, I had suggested He just install Linux. I told him I would get back to him with information whether a Linux distro of choice (or any) would be compatible with such an adaptor or if a driver (free) would be seperately needed to be installed even if would be a propritery driver ( I believe is called that actually costs a few bucks). That's when his antenna got broken during cleaning. I may trade him for the used desktop and run it ethernet connected, or he may wish to keep it and buy another wireless adaptor for desktop. HERE are some links I have found so far.......
 
Wireless adapters/Chipset table
Wireless adapter (802.11b and later) chipsets and native Linux support
 
Existing Linux Wireless drivers
 
Introduction
Linuxant strives to bring the very latest Wireless LAN technology to the Linux community...
 
PCI / USB Network Adapters, Linux Driver Support
 
FOUND these using the following google search words
"usb vs pci wireless adapter linux support driver"
Results: (may find more)
 
Some discussions in forums may help too from the search results for specifics. Another approach may be to go to the wireless adaptor manufacturer site, pick from the models available, and one by one check of they list Linux compatibilitly and specifics.
 
gerald philly pa usa, webmaster:
 
 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:14 AM
Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Wireless adapters for linux - ubuntu 12.04 LTS
 


Please can anyone help me.I  use the above [I am not sure of the kernel version]  on a Lenovo comp. with Vista.and there seems to be a lot of confusion about which wireless adapter should be bought to use for my particular requirements according to the above info. as shown.Can anyone advise me which adapter I should buy with regard to chip  name and chip set  version or number ie RTL  8191 as an example.I am very much a newbie to linux and ubuntu and I just want to buy the correct adapter  for my set up and preferably a plug and play, and supports the linux kernel by default,as this will save searching for correct drivers.This info I gathered online.My system is 32 bit Vista.Any help would be really appreciated.
Thankyou  Barrie Haigh lovely Anna Bay

 

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Is low level format requried? HOw is it performed?

 

Thanks to all who replied.  I picked up some good information.   

I feel somewhat humbled when I realized that I could have simply loaded the .ISO disk and the started the install.  If the install had bombed, I would have realized that a low level  format was required.    

I just started the Ubuntu install  and  it is (at the moment) proceeding smoothly.   

However, I did learn a couple of things from the replies and I am grateful - and have taken careful note.

Thanks to all

Justin 

From: "justin_e_bell2000@yahoo.com" <justin_e_bell2000@yahoo.com>
To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:54 AM
Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Is low level format requried? HOw is it performed?

 
I  am planning to install Ubuntu on a surplus Dell (dual-core) machine, that I bought from a college surplus sale - with no hard drive.  

I was able to pick up a (wiped clean)  SATA hard drive rather cheaply. 

Since  the hard drive is wiped clean, do I have to perform some sort of low-level format before I can install the Ubuntu operating system from the ususal iso disk?

If some sort of low level format is needed,  What program is required to perform the low level format?
Is there a special procedure to follow?

 I spent some time looking on Google and could not get a clear answere.

Thanks


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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Is low level format requried? HOw is it performed?

 


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:54 AM, <justin_e_bell2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

Since  the hard drive is wiped clean, do I have to perform some sort of low-level format before I can install the Ubuntu operating system from the ususal iso disk?


The short anwer, petem001's somewhat cryptic response not withstanding, is No, you do not.  

The only cases I know of where a low-level type format is needed these days is if the hard disk was in some sort of software or some hardware RAID arrays that write metadata to weird locations on disk.  Sometimes this can cause the partitioner to choke.  But in about 95% of the cases, maybe it's more like 99%, all you need to do is as petem001 said, boot the installer, and when it asks you about partitions, tell it to use the whole disk.  The installer should take care of the rest.

That said, I always recommend creating a separate /home partition simply because it allows you to more safely do re-installs (you can always re-install the root fs while preserving /home with your user specific data).

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Is low level format requried? HOw is it performed?

 

If you were planning to use Wi-Fi, please do so after the initial install over a LAN wired connection, since Ubuntu doesn't install the Dell drivers for it automatically and may add them after the updates are downloaded. I have better luck with Mint, Zorin, and some others like Puppy sometimes.

After a discussion on another List lately, I thought I might mention this, plus it might be handy to have an USB style Wi-Fi adapter just in case, sometimes even a LAN USB adapter comes in handy, since some colleges have surplus computers that need some work like sound cards, NIC or IDE controllers that go bad. Count yourself lucky if you have no problems, but then I pick the $5.00 towers, so sometimes I get what I pay for ;-)
Joan in Reno

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To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Is low level format requried? HOw is it performed?

 
I  am planning to install Ubuntu on a surplus Dell (dual-core) machine, that I bought from a college surplus sale - with no hard drive.  

I was able to pick up a (wiped clean)  SATA hard drive rather cheaply. 

Since  the hard drive is wiped clean, do I have to perform some sort of low-level format before I can install the Ubuntu operating system from the ususal iso disk?

If some sort of low level format is needed,  What program is required to perform the low level format?
Is there a special procedure to follow?

 I spent some time looking on Google and could not get a clear answere.

Thanks


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RE: [LINUX_Newbies] Is low level format requried? HOw is it performed?

 



No Low level format is user available  since the MFM interface days.
All lowlevel formatting is done on IDE and SATA drives at the manufacturer with very high dollar equipment.
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Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Is low level format requried? HOw is it performed?

I  am planning to install Ubuntu on a surplus Dell (dual-core) machine, that I bought from a college surplus sale - with no hard drive.  


I was able to pick up a (wiped clean)  SATA hard drive rather cheaply. 


Since  the hard drive is wiped clean, do I have to perform some sort of low-level format before I can install the Ubuntu operating system from the ususal iso disk?


If some sort of low level format is needed,  What program is required to perform the low level format?

Is there a special procedure to follow?

 I spent some time looking on Google and could not get a clear answere.


Thanks

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Is low level format requried? HOw is it performed?

 

If you ever did a partionning of a disk on windows you know what it did, it removed everything from the disk and place a new table of content over the old one.
 
Now its exactly the same thing with Linux, the install cd will ask you where to install. just tell it to use the whole disk and it will partion the disk and format it in the good format type.
 
 
 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:54 AM
Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Is low level format requried? HOw is it performed?
 
 

I  am planning to install Ubuntu on a surplus Dell (dual-core) machine, that I bought from a college surplus sale - with no hard drive.  

 

I was able to pick up a (wiped clean)  SATA hard drive rather cheaply. 

 

Since  the hard drive is wiped clean, do I have to perform some sort of low-level format before I can install the Ubuntu operating system from the ususal iso disk?

 

If some sort of low level format is needed,  What program is required to perform the low level format?

Is there a special procedure to follow?

I spent some time looking on Google and could not get a clear answere.

 

Thanks

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Two users on one computer

 


Good afternoon
Fr Sep 27 17:40:34 2013
Thank You for email and help.

> | > | I open tb and I can see all emails.
> | > | When I used a text based software like mutt
> | > | can I see also all emails or onyl file names in one directory?
> | >
> | > Mutt generally shows you only one mail folder at a time, but you
> | > can change folders easily enoguh, and also tell it to monitor various
> | > folders for the arrival of new email.
> |
> | So I can see
> | only the name of the sender of the email and the topic?
>
> You can tune what is in the lines in the message index.
> Here's a snapshot of mine, showing your message:
>
> 20Sep2013 02:11 Steven Aftergoo ! Secrecy News -- 09/19/13
KNOWN, Personal 11K
> 20Sep2013 02:03 highskywhy@yaho ! ┌>
KNOWN, LNXNewbies, Personal 0.7K
> 13Sep2013 07:14 To LINUX_Newbie - ┌>Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Two users
on one computer 0.6K
> 14Aug2013 19:43 To LINUX_Newbie - ├>Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Two users
on one computer 1.2K

Thank You for special help.
For this I was looking.

>
> Your mail reader may fold those lines up, making them very ugly.
> Make it as wide as possible.
>
> There should be exactly 4 lines above, each showing:
>
> message date and time (in my local time)
>
> message author (you can see your message on line 2)
>
> flags (the "!" means I should pay this more attention)
>
> threading and subject
> see the "|->" ? They show how messages in a single thread are
related
> your message is thus clearly a reply to my message on 13Sep2013
>
> x-label (a header written by my mail filing program, and used by mutt)
> this marks some messages with a "category"
> this is quite useful in mixed folders, where I file several
> related mailing lists; it is obvious which mailing list the
> message is from
>
> message size
> really there just for interest, but sometimes handy when looking
> for attachments, or for "long" messages
>
> See the "index_format" variable in the mutt documentation:
>
> http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#index_format
>
> My config line says:
>
> set index_format="%D %-15.15F %S %?M?(%M) ?%?H?[%H] ?%s%> %y %4c"
>

Thank You
Sophie

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