Friday, November 30, 2012

[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Atheros and Linux

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Roy <linuxcanuck@...> wrote:
>
> This sounds like a lot of work to get a driver. How can you get
> build-essential or a driver without either a working wired or wireless
> connection? I have never heard of this situation with Ubuntu (only Debian
> with its stripped kernel).
>
> I think that something else is wrong because wired works OTB in Ubuntu in
> just about every case and Atheros is fairly common and should be supported
> in the kernel. If it was me then I would try the live disk again. Try a web
> browser in both wired and wireless networking. If the connection works then
> it should work when installed and something went amiss in the installation.
> Then I would do a fresh install. I would also consider using the newer
> Ubuntu 12.10 or Mint 14 unless you need LTS.
>
> Roy
> Using Kubuntu 12.10, 64-bit
> Location: Canada

If it were me I'd bale on that install too. Some struggles aren't worth the effort.

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Atheros and Linux

 

It was a lot of work, more than a year trying, but there were 3 threads, in ubuntuforums, that resume everything (the links in the blog mentioned previously). This worked for more than a year, until finally Ubuntu worked OTB for this driver.

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Roy <linuxcanuck@...> wrote:
>
> This sounds like a lot of work to get a driver. How can you get
> build-essential or a driver without either a working wired or wireless
> connection? I have never heard of this situation with Ubuntu (only Debian
> with its stripped kernel).
>
> I think that something else is wrong because wired works OTB in Ubuntu in
> just about every case and Atheros is fairly common and should be supported
> in the kernel. If it was me then I would try the live disk again. Try a web
> browser in both wired and wireless networking. If the connection works then
> it should work when installed and something went amiss in the installation.
> Then I would do a fresh install. I would also consider using the newer
> Ubuntu 12.10 or Mint 14 unless you need LTS.
>
> Roy
> Using Kubuntu 12.10, 64-bit
> Location: Canada
>
>
> On 29 November 2012 11:02, Arturo <dr_ovalle@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > My bad. Is not "essentials" is "essential"
> >
> > sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
> > build-essential
> >
> > --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo" <dr_ovalle@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Read this post, is mine, I can translate it for you, but Google
> > translator does a decent job, I'm a little short of time, but I will gladly
> > translate it for you if you want:
> > >
> > > http://experimentolinux.blogspot.mx/2007/09/ubuntu-704-i386.html
> > >
> > > Where it says:
> > > sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
> > build-essent
> > > it is an error, it has to say:
> > > sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
> > build-essentials
> > >
> > > I will recommend to use Copy and Paste to avoid errors.
> > >
> > > I hope it works for you.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jverhovec@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have information about an Acer computer with Atheros
> > network specifications? Here are the specifications:
> > > >
> > > > - I am using a Acer Aspire 5349-2899 laptop
> > > > - Intel B815
> > > > - Acer Nplify 802.11 b/g/n
> > > > - Ethernet controller AR5B125
> > > > - Atheros driver v1.0.0.43
> > > > - IPv4 Address 192.168.2.3
> > > > - Default Gateway / DHCP server 192.168.2.1
> > > > - IPv4 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
> > > >
> > > > I use this chipset on my Windows 7 based computer. When I try to run
> > both Windows and Linux on the same computer using their method to do this,
> > I cannot connect using Linux. Why not? Do I need to use only one OS or the
> > other?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Atheros and Linux

 

This sounds like a lot of work to get a driver. How can you get
build-essential or a driver without either a working wired or wireless
connection? I have never heard of this situation with Ubuntu (only Debian
with its stripped kernel).

I think that something else is wrong because wired works OTB in Ubuntu in
just about every case and Atheros is fairly common and should be supported
in the kernel. If it was me then I would try the live disk again. Try a web
browser in both wired and wireless networking. If the connection works then
it should work when installed and something went amiss in the installation.
Then I would do a fresh install. I would also consider using the newer
Ubuntu 12.10 or Mint 14 unless you need LTS.

Roy
Using Kubuntu 12.10, 64-bit
Location: Canada

On 29 November 2012 11:02, Arturo <dr_ovalle@yahoo.com.mx> wrote:

> **
>
>
> My bad. Is not "essentials" is "essential"
>
> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
> build-essential
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo" <dr_ovalle@...> wrote:
> >
> > Read this post, is mine, I can translate it for you, but Google
> translator does a decent job, I'm a little short of time, but I will gladly
> translate it for you if you want:
> >
> > http://experimentolinux.blogspot.mx/2007/09/ubuntu-704-i386.html
> >
> > Where it says:
> > sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
> build-essent
> > it is an error, it has to say:
> > sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
> build-essentials
> >
> > I will recommend to use Copy and Paste to avoid errors.
> >
> > I hope it works for you.
> >
> >
> > --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jverhovec@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone have information about an Acer computer with Atheros
> network specifications? Here are the specifications:
> > >
> > > - I am using a Acer Aspire 5349-2899 laptop
> > > - Intel B815
> > > - Acer Nplify 802.11 b/g/n
> > > - Ethernet controller AR5B125
> > > - Atheros driver v1.0.0.43
> > > - IPv4 Address 192.168.2.3
> > > - Default Gateway / DHCP server 192.168.2.1
> > > - IPv4 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
> > >
> > > I use this chipset on my Windows 7 based computer. When I try to run
> both Windows and Linux on the same computer using their method to do this,
> I cannot connect using Linux. Why not? Do I need to use only one OS or the
> other?
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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Thursday, November 29, 2012

[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Atheros and Linux

 

My bad. Is not "essentials" is "essential"

sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
build-essential

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo" <dr_ovalle@...> wrote:
>
> Read this post, is mine, I can translate it for you, but Google translator does a decent job, I'm a little short of time, but I will gladly translate it for you if you want:
>
> http://experimentolinux.blogspot.mx/2007/09/ubuntu-704-i386.html
>
> Where it says:
> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essent
> it is an error, it has to say:
> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essentials
>
> I will recommend to use Copy and Paste to avoid errors.
>
> I hope it works for you.
>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jverhovec@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have information about an Acer computer with Atheros network specifications? Here are the specifications:
> >
> > - I am using a Acer Aspire 5349-2899 laptop
> > - Intel B815
> > - Acer Nplify 802.11 b/g/n
> > - Ethernet controller AR5B125
> > - Atheros driver v1.0.0.43
> > - IPv4 Address 192.168.2.3
> > - Default Gateway / DHCP server 192.168.2.1
> > - IPv4 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
> >
> > I use this chipset on my Windows 7 based computer. When I try to run both Windows and Linux on the same computer using their method to do this, I cannot connect using Linux. Why not? Do I need to use only one OS or the other?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Jim
> >
>

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[nslu2-linux] Re: Hiphop PHP on ARM?

 

--- In nslu2-linux@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Reitz <andyr@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> since there's a 32bit Version of HipHop (Facebooks PHP->C++ Compiler)
> available, i would like to know if someone tried to compile it on the
> slug (or another arm device like dockstar,...). I'm playing a lot with
> php and it seems like a good possibility to reduce system load.
>
> Greets

Hi Andreas,

Have you got any informations?
I would like to install it on Broadcom MIPS

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Wednesday, November 28, 2012

[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Atheros and Linux

 

Thanks Paul - I took my computer into a local shop for a look-see. He noted some missing drivers and tried to upload a new driver. When he got busier and we couldn't easily upload the new driver, I left his shop so he could work with his paying costumers.

Rob did tell me that he had luck with another distro, too. So I can try that, I guess. Maybe I can get one to work. I agree, a working system is a whole different ballgame.

Thanks and I will keep on trying.

Jim in Ohio

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <pfrederick1@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jverhovec@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the response.
> >
> > Yes - I plugged an Ethernet directly into the computer from a router. I recycled the computer more than once. In my terminal, I used /sbin/ifconfig:
> >
> > jim@jim-laptop:~$ sudo /sbin/ifconfig
> > [sudo] password for jim:
> > lo Link encap:Local Loopback
> > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
> > inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
> > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
> > RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> > TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> > RX bytes:480 (480.0 B) TX bytes:480 (480.0 B)
> >
> > jim@jim-laptop:~$ netstat -nr
> > Kernel IP routing table
> > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
> >
> > I don't know if this may help.
>
> It shows you do not have an eth0 interface. Without that network interface you of course have no gateway access point to the Internet either.
>
> Like others have pointed out in the thread you have to get the driver for your hardware and load it before you can bring your network interface up.
>
> Everything I've read about that Ethernet Controller suggests you should have the driver now. A couple of years ago you would have had to go out and get it special but now I think it is included?
>
> I could swear when I ran a live image of Fedora 17 on an Acer laptop here it just worked. That laptop is out for unrelated hardware repairs now so I cannot verify it again though. I think the HDD died in it. Being as networking just worked in it I didn't look too closely at what it had. When I get that system back I will now though.
>
> Maybe you can get Roy to tell you what the module name is and you can try to manually load it?
>
> I know how frustrating solving these problems can be but look on the bright side, by the time you've figured it out you'll have learned so much you'll be an expert! Knowing about modules and basic networking comes in handy.
>
> BTW one valid troubleshooting technique in Linux is to load up another distribution where stuff just works, see how and why it works, then use that information to make a broken distribution work. When hardware works you can see what the module name being used is etc. UNCLAIMED isn't very helpful. But seeing stuff working can be very enlightening when it comes to troubleshooting. Oh, so that is how it is supposed to work. As opposed to why doesn't it work?
>
> Of course doing that can have the side effect of changing distributions. So be careful :)
>

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Atheros and Linux

 

Read this post, is mine, I can translate it for you, but Google translator does a decent job, I'm a little short of time, but I will gladly translate it for you if you want:

http://experimentolinux.blogspot.mx/2007/09/ubuntu-704-i386.html

Where it says:
sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essent
it is an error, it has to say:
sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essentials

I will recommend to use Copy and Paste to avoid errors.

I hope it works for you.

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jverhovec@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have information about an Acer computer with Atheros network specifications? Here are the specifications:
>
> - I am using a Acer Aspire 5349-2899 laptop
> - Intel B815
> - Acer Nplify 802.11 b/g/n
> - Ethernet controller AR5B125
> - Atheros driver v1.0.0.43
> - IPv4 Address 192.168.2.3
> - Default Gateway / DHCP server 192.168.2.1
> - IPv4 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
>
> I use this chipset on my Windows 7 based computer. When I try to run both Windows and Linux on the same computer using their method to do this, I cannot connect using Linux. Why not? Do I need to use only one OS or the other?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jim
>

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Atheros and Linux

 

Sorry I haven't contributed yet. I've been very busy. I have a little kid that demands a lot of attention.
Here it is. I have the same problem with Atheros card, using Linux. I wrote how to make it work (in spanish). But the instructions are the same.
It has the references too. But I had to do a mix of everything to make it work.

http://experimentolinux.blogspot.mx/2007/09/ubuntu-704-i386.html

I hope it works for you. I made it to work in Ubuntu, in Sabayon and in OpenSuSe.

If you have problems to understand, I will gladly translate it.

Cheers.

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <pfrederick1@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jverhovec@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the response.
> >
> > Yes - I plugged an Ethernet directly into the computer from a router. I recycled the computer more than once. In my terminal, I used /sbin/ifconfig:
> >
> > jim@jim-laptop:~$ sudo /sbin/ifconfig
> > [sudo] password for jim:
> > lo Link encap:Local Loopback
> > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
> > inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
> > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
> > RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> > TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> > RX bytes:480 (480.0 B) TX bytes:480 (480.0 B)
> >
> > jim@jim-laptop:~$ netstat -nr
> > Kernel IP routing table
> > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
> >
> > I don't know if this may help.
>
> It shows you do not have an eth0 interface. Without that network interface you of course have no gateway access point to the Internet either.
>
> Like others have pointed out in the thread you have to get the driver for your hardware and load it before you can bring your network interface up.
>
> Everything I've read about that Ethernet Controller suggests you should have the driver now. A couple of years ago you would have had to go out and get it special but now I think it is included?
>
> I could swear when I ran a live image of Fedora 17 on an Acer laptop here it just worked. That laptop is out for unrelated hardware repairs now so I cannot verify it again though. I think the HDD died in it. Being as networking just worked in it I didn't look too closely at what it had. When I get that system back I will now though.
>
> Maybe you can get Roy to tell you what the module name is and you can try to manually load it?
>
> I know how frustrating solving these problems can be but look on the bright side, by the time you've figured it out you'll have learned so much you'll be an expert! Knowing about modules and basic networking comes in handy.
>
> BTW one valid troubleshooting technique in Linux is to load up another distribution where stuff just works, see how and why it works, then use that information to make a broken distribution work. When hardware works you can see what the module name being used is etc. UNCLAIMED isn't very helpful. But seeing stuff working can be very enlightening when it comes to troubleshooting. Oh, so that is how it is supposed to work. As opposed to why doesn't it work?
>
> Of course doing that can have the side effect of changing distributions. So be careful :)
>

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Atheros and Linux

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jverhovec@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Yes - I plugged an Ethernet directly into the computer from a router. I recycled the computer more than once. In my terminal, I used /sbin/ifconfig:
>
> jim@jim-laptop:~$ sudo /sbin/ifconfig
> [sudo] password for jim:
> lo Link encap:Local Loopback
> inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
> inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
> UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
> RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> RX bytes:480 (480.0 B) TX bytes:480 (480.0 B)
>
> jim@jim-laptop:~$ netstat -nr
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
>
> I don't know if this may help.

It shows you do not have an eth0 interface. Without that network interface you of course have no gateway access point to the Internet either.

Like others have pointed out in the thread you have to get the driver for your hardware and load it before you can bring your network interface up.

Everything I've read about that Ethernet Controller suggests you should have the driver now. A couple of years ago you would have had to go out and get it special but now I think it is included?

I could swear when I ran a live image of Fedora 17 on an Acer laptop here it just worked. That laptop is out for unrelated hardware repairs now so I cannot verify it again though. I think the HDD died in it. Being as networking just worked in it I didn't look too closely at what it had. When I get that system back I will now though.

Maybe you can get Roy to tell you what the module name is and you can try to manually load it?

I know how frustrating solving these problems can be but look on the bright side, by the time you've figured it out you'll have learned so much you'll be an expert! Knowing about modules and basic networking comes in handy.

BTW one valid troubleshooting technique in Linux is to load up another distribution where stuff just works, see how and why it works, then use that information to make a broken distribution work. When hardware works you can see what the module name being used is etc. UNCLAIMED isn't very helpful. But seeing stuff working can be very enlightening when it comes to troubleshooting. Oh, so that is how it is supposed to work. As opposed to why doesn't it work?

Of course doing that can have the side effect of changing distributions. So be careful :)

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Monday, November 26, 2012

[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Atheros and Linux

 

Thanks for the response.

Yes - I plugged an Ethernet directly into the computer from a router. I recycled the computer more than once. In my terminal, I used /sbin/ifconfig:

jim@jim-laptop:~$ sudo /sbin/ifconfig
[sudo] password for jim:
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:480 (480.0 B) TX bytes:480 (480.0 B)

jim@jim-laptop:~$ netstat -nr
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface

I don't know if this may help.

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <pfrederick1@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jverhovec@> wrote:
> >
> > When I use a direct connection, I am still not connected.
> >
> > I plug into my laptop from a Wireless router with 4 ports. Then what?
> >
> > Nothing happens. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Jim V in Ohio
>
>
> When you say, "When I use a direct connection" I assume you mean plug an Ethernet cable into your laptop. What should happen depends on a few things. One thing is when you plug your laptop in. It should be plugged in while you are booting the machine up. That is when Linux attempts to establish an automatic network connection.
>
> There are of course other ways of doing that but they are all more complicated. Anyhow that automatic network configuration will only happen if your router uses DHCP, and your system is configured to use DHCP as well. It should be, but who knows.
>
> In any event try booting the machine up with the Ethernet cable attached to it and get back to the group with what that does, or doesn't do for you.
>
> BTW one way to make a DHCP connection without rebooting is to use a command called pump
>
> $ aptitude show pump
>
> Description: BOOTP and DHCP client for automatic IP configuration
> This is the BOOTP/DHCP client written by RedHat.
>
> DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) and BOOTP (Boot Protocol) are
> protocols which allow individual devices on an IP network to get their own
> network configuration information (IP address, subnetmask, broadcast address,
> etc.) from network servers. The overall purpose of DHCP and BOOTP is to make it
> easier to administer a large network.
>
>
> It has been a while but I believe the command is pump -d, but you need pump installed for that to work and pump is not usually installed by default.
>
> A couple other commands that are handy to debug network issues are:
>
> /sbin/ifconfig
>
> and
>
> netstat -nr
>
> also
>
> dmesg | grep -i eth
>
> this is a fun one that may not work
>
> less `locate eth0.leases`
>
> Those are back quotation marks. They have a special meaning to the shell so get them right. If it does work space bar pages and q quits out.
>
> Any of that may yield clues as to what is going on. Networking is great when it works, but a pain to get to work sometimes. If you have a static IP that can be configured as well.
>

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Atheros and Linux

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jverhovec@...> wrote:
>
> When I use a direct connection, I am still not connected.
>
> I plug into my laptop from a Wireless router with 4 ports. Then what?
>
> Nothing happens. Any suggestions?
>
> Jim V in Ohio

When you say, "When I use a direct connection" I assume you mean plug an Ethernet cable into your laptop. What should happen depends on a few things. One thing is when you plug your laptop in. It should be plugged in while you are booting the machine up. That is when Linux attempts to establish an automatic network connection.

There are of course other ways of doing that but they are all more complicated. Anyhow that automatic network configuration will only happen if your router uses DHCP, and your system is configured to use DHCP as well. It should be, but who knows.

In any event try booting the machine up with the Ethernet cable attached to it and get back to the group with what that does, or doesn't do for you.

BTW one way to make a DHCP connection without rebooting is to use a command called pump

$ aptitude show pump

Description: BOOTP and DHCP client for automatic IP configuration
This is the BOOTP/DHCP client written by RedHat.

DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) and BOOTP (Boot Protocol) are
protocols which allow individual devices on an IP network to get their own
network configuration information (IP address, subnetmask, broadcast address,
etc.) from network servers. The overall purpose of DHCP and BOOTP is to make it
easier to administer a large network.

It has been a while but I believe the command is pump -d, but you need pump installed for that to work and pump is not usually installed by default.

A couple other commands that are handy to debug network issues are:

/sbin/ifconfig

and

netstat -nr

also

dmesg | grep -i eth

this is a fun one that may not work

less `locate eth0.leases`

Those are back quotation marks. They have a special meaning to the shell so get them right. If it does work space bar pages and q quits out.

Any of that may yield clues as to what is going on. Networking is great when it works, but a pain to get to work sometimes. If you have a static IP that can be configured as well.

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