Thanks Paul - I took my computer into a local shop for a look-see. He noted some missing drivers and tried to upload a new driver. When he got busier and we couldn't easily upload the new driver, I left his shop so he could work with his paying costumers.
Rob did tell me that he had luck with another distro, too. So I can try that, I guess. Maybe I can get one to work. I agree, a working system is a whole different ballgame.
Thanks and I will keep on trying.
Jim in Ohio
--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <pfrederick1@...> wrote:
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> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jverhovec@> wrote:
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> > Thanks for the response.
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> > Yes - I plugged an Ethernet directly into the computer from a router. I recycled the computer more than once. In my terminal, I used /sbin/ifconfig:
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> > jim@jim-laptop:~$ sudo /sbin/ifconfig
> > [sudo] password for jim:
> > lo Link encap:Local Loopback
> > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
> > inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
> > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
> > RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> > TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> > RX bytes:480 (480.0 B) TX bytes:480 (480.0 B)
> >
> > jim@jim-laptop:~$ netstat -nr
> > Kernel IP routing table
> > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
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> > I don't know if this may help.
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> It shows you do not have an eth0 interface. Without that network interface you of course have no gateway access point to the Internet either.
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> Like others have pointed out in the thread you have to get the driver for your hardware and load it before you can bring your network interface up.
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> Everything I've read about that Ethernet Controller suggests you should have the driver now. A couple of years ago you would have had to go out and get it special but now I think it is included?
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> I could swear when I ran a live image of Fedora 17 on an Acer laptop here it just worked. That laptop is out for unrelated hardware repairs now so I cannot verify it again though. I think the HDD died in it. Being as networking just worked in it I didn't look too closely at what it had. When I get that system back I will now though.
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> Maybe you can get Roy to tell you what the module name is and you can try to manually load it?
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> I know how frustrating solving these problems can be but look on the bright side, by the time you've figured it out you'll have learned so much you'll be an expert! Knowing about modules and basic networking comes in handy.
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> BTW one valid troubleshooting technique in Linux is to load up another distribution where stuff just works, see how and why it works, then use that information to make a broken distribution work. When hardware works you can see what the module name being used is etc. UNCLAIMED isn't very helpful. But seeing stuff working can be very enlightening when it comes to troubleshooting. Oh, so that is how it is supposed to work. As opposed to why doesn't it work?
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> Of course doing that can have the side effect of changing distributions. So be careful :)
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