Monday, May 17, 2010

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] About Red hat linux

 

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Roy wrote:
> Redhat is MEANT for servers by the companies own admission. They have
> expressly stated that they do intend to get into the desktop market. Fedora
> is their desktop initiative. As you deviate from what Redhat is intended
> then you are distorting their mission and the Linux environment. Redhat does
> lots of things differently from other distributions and many Linux skills
> are not transferable directly to Redhat because Redhat likes it that way.
> Their money is made in support and training. These differences would only
> confuse others.
>

I ran RHEL3 for a long-ass time, around 5 years. That release had 3
releases, IIRC, Desktop, Server, and some scalable Enterprise version,
for people with lotsa-lotsa CPU's.

When my support contract ran out several months ago, I switched over to
CentOS 5.4 (upgraded to 5.5 just this week) which is basically RHEL,
re-branded.. I did a minimal net-install, which was really nice and
smooth, and did not include very much... almost as light as OpenBSD. It
didn't even include gcc (GNU Compiler Collection), which sort of
surprised me... first time I ever saw a *nix w/o compilers built in by
default.

> My point was that any discussion of servers here would be way over the head
> of most newbies who come here for desktop help. Sure you can help him learn
> Redhat here, but there are better places because you are more likely to find
> like minded individuals there. You could argue that Linux newbies would
> include Redhat, but his question wasn't specific, but rather on how to learn
> Redhat. So I pointed him in another direction. I don't see that any harm was
> done as he can still ask questions here if he has something specific.
>

Yeah, I've been running RedHat since the later 1990's... v.5 or v.7,
primarily as a Desktop, but probably not what a lot of the more recent
people moving over to *nix would consider 'Desktop'.

I have Samba shares set up, so that my workstation (which includes three
Desktop machines) can easily share files, and have gcc, perl, and some
other scripting engines installed, and am running SELinux and some other
stuff one would expect to see on a server-type machine, like Apache...
must-have stuff for webdev, coding and other work-related stuff.

I also have an Internet-exposed OpenBSD web/mail server on the LAN, so a
lot of what I am doing at my Workstation/Desktops, winds up being
uploaded to the OBSD server.

The way I work, neither a Desktop nor a Server would be sufficient to
the task. I have a BSD Modem/Gateway with a packet filter built in, the
OBSD web/mail server with its own PF packet filter running, and all
non-essential apps locked down, and then my three Desktop machines, one
each, OBSD, CentOS 5.5/SELinux, and Windows Vista FDCC, each one set up
for specific tasks that parallel my Workstation at work.

The line between Desktop and Server becomes pretty blurred, in practice.

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