We used VMServer one semester and it was too cumbersome for students to work with so we returned to using VMWare Player which is now faster and works better than it did even a year ago
--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Roy <linuxcanuck@...> wrote:
>
> I should give VMWare another shot. It has been awhile. It makes sense that
> they would be competitive in terms of features. I thought that you must be
> using VM Server to make VMs. Does it expire?
>
> Recently rumours are that VMWare and Novell are in merger talks. That should
> be interesting given Novell's history with networking and enterprise and
> with VMWare having a foot in business virtualisation. It sounds like a good
> fit.
>
> Roy
>
> On 8 July 2010 10:47, J <dreadpiratejeff@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 09:55, Roy <linuxcanuck@...<linuxcanuck%40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> > > The competition is VirtualBox from Oracle and I made the switch way back
> > > when it was still owned by Innotek. I used to use VMWare extensively and
> > > wondered how it stacks up now. I know that it is much harder to install
> > or
> > > used to be, as it required some compiling and agreeing to licenses in a
> > > terminal window. That would put off all but hardcore users when
> > VirtualBox
> > > is so much simpler for newbies. Then there is the creation of VMs which
> > > requires a license for one of their products which can either involve
> > steep
> > > costs or a trial version that expires.
> > >
> > > Do you make your own VMs or get ones that others have made?
> >
> > For what it's worth, I've run VMWare, ESX, VirtualBox, KVM and Xen on
> > various systems over the years...
> >
> > For the class I teach, I'm lucky to have removable hard disk trays in
> > all the lab systems so the students can do bare-metal installs over
> > and over again. However, for working at home, I give them a CD with
> > VMWare on it (Not player, I give the free vmware server) and
> > instructions on how to create VMs and install into those...
> >
> > For what I do now (a lot of ISO/installation testing), I prefer VirtualBox.
> >
> > KVM is pretty neat, but does still require a bit of configuration to
> > get it to do certain things.
> > Xen is almost identical to KVM in that respect, but KVM is lighter and
> > seems to me to be more stable (but that could be that I'm jaded after
> > years of Xen testing).
> > ESX is a great platform, IMHO, but the biggest problem I have with it
> > is VMWare requiring a windows workstation to control it via VSphere.
> > Server will work on any Windows (or linux desktop) and works well.
> > Player I've never had a use for. I've never been able to find
> > pre-made images that actually booted on any of my attempts at using
> > player, so I just gave up on it and went with something more robust.
> >
> > VirtualBox has it's pros and cons too... easy to use right out the
> > box, but configuring certain things can be a bit of a pain if you've
> > never done them before (allowing the VMs to communicate with the host
> > system via network, for example... But for my needs, beyond that one
> > thing, VirtualBox does everything I need right out of the box.
> >
> >
>
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