Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: How to install FEDORA 13 ON WINDOWS

And I thought that you were a fan. ;)

Nothing is perfect. My contact with Fedora users which is invariably
positive suggests that they like the installer and do not like Ubuntu's set
and forget approach. Personally I like to be able to walk away and come back
to a fully functional system upon re-boot. But both work for me as I get
used to the various idiosyncrasies of the various installers, so much so
that they tend to merge in my mind. The peril of being a distro junkie. :)

With Fedora 13 they are allowing Btrfs as well as the usual suspects, just
to confuse things even more. I tried F13, but went back F12. It just did not
seem ready and I did not like some of the changes. This is a reversal for me
because I usually look forward to change. So far I prefer the even numbered
releases of Fedora. IMO, 8 was better than 9, and ten better than 11. But I
am not a true Fedora user. I just dabble in it .. because I can.

Roy

On 8 July 2010 10:17, Scott <scottro@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 08:50:53AM -0400, Roy wrote:
> > In my experience installing Fedora is no different in a multi-boot
> scenario
> > than any other distribution except that it does not like to add other
> > distributions to its grub boot loader.
>
> Yup, will only add Windows. Unlike the other 300 or so distros, the
> Fedora developers haven't figured out how to recognize and add other
> Linux installs. Perhaps it's part of their We're like Windows, only
> worse, outlook. :)
>
> Installing it is easy provided that
> > you take your time and read carefully.
>
> Again, unlike other distributions, their default is LVM (logical
> volumes), which you might want to avoid unless you're familiar with
> them. They're more useful on servers and where you want to spread data
> across multiple physical disks.
>
> The installation process is in two
> > steps. You don't add your user name until you re-boot which may be
> unnerving
> > for some. For others it is just expected to be this way and Ubuntu's
> method
> > of doing it in one go is strange.
>
> Well, neither is traditional actually, In more intellgently done
> systems, such as the BSDs, you have the opportunity to add a user,
> althugh said user won't have root privilege, and also set a password for
> root.
>
> In Fedora's typically poorly thought out manner, you only set root--now,
> on first boot, if you're lucky, the firstboot program will run, allowing
> you to set a user. What happens quite frequently, as Fedora chooses
> their defaults the way they do everything else, i.e., moronically is
> that you'll either be greeted with a blank screen (0 default timeout on
> grub, more stupidity), or wind up with a GUI log in screen that won't
> give you an option to log in. Feodra doesn't allow root login to their
> deafult GUI by default, as they are trying to keep you from shooting
> yourself in the foot.
>
> One suggestion is that when install is completed, you use ctl+alt+F2 to
> get a console. (This is before clicking the reboot button.) Then if
> you look at the /mnt/sysimage/etc/grub.conf, you can edit grub to have a
> default timeout of 3 or 5 seconds, anyway, enough so that you don't have
> to worry about accessing it in case there's a problem.
>
> Also, you google a wee bit, you should find an illustrated installation
> guide on fedoraproject.org, (I think--I'd have to google to find the
> exact location.) You might also find the mjmwired.net guides very
> valuable.
>
> --
> Scott Robbins
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