Monday, September 10, 2012

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Debian Squeeze and Software Center

 

I hear that, Dude.

The main thing that I was liking about Software Center was the ability to
find what I wanted, as far as the front end programs go. Then, I was
liking the fact that I wasn't pulling up very much of the obsolete stuff as
I often seem to come across. Also - and, perhaps, I'm wrong about this -
there also seemed to be an improvement in quality.

I, too, prefer utility to cosmetic design. However, there is something to
be said about user friendly: It occasionally serves it's purpose. If the
day ever comes that I am on the CLI-for-everything level, that some people
are, I may be able to dispense with it. But, I just ain't there, yet.

In fact, I think that if the Linux community truly wants to go more
mainstream over the legacy garbage, like Windoze, then, they are eventually
going to have to swallow some well-deserved elitist pride and just
accommodate both kinds of users. At least, where it comes to the X-windows
distros. There are just too many helpless idiots out there, who wish to
remain that way. Their stupidity provides the impetus that keeps crap-ware
Microsoft products going.

But, if we can implement "user-friendly" in ways that encourage them to
delve into more expert levels, without running into brick walls, then we
just might create another hobbyist trend that doesn't seem to have been
around since the days of 8-bit computers.

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Roy <linuxcanuck@gmail.com> wrote:

> In my experience, user friendly means dumbed down. Synaptic has many
> useful features not included in SC. It lists dependencies, versions, and a
> useful description, but no rating. It has filters to show broken
> dependencies, upgradeable packages, new packages, etc. You can sort by
> origin or architecture.You can add sources, change them, find the fastest
> server, and add keys without leaving the application. I use some of these
> features every day. Score one for Synaptic. It may be ugly and old, but
> there is nothing that comes close to it for features.
>
> Roy
> Using Kubuntu 12.04, 64-bit
> Location: Canada
>
>
> On 9 September 2012 18:28, Turin Turambar <TurinTurambar.1@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Just thought that I would post this warning for others who have installed
> > Debian Squeeze.
> >
> > I'm only guessing, here. I did some Googling, but couldn't find any
> > corroboration, on this. However, I suspect that Squeeze's "Software
> > Center" (a more user friendly alternative to Synaptic) has a serious bug
> > that will wipe out your network connections (including, Internet),
> network
> > configuration programs, and, other important programs (such as the one
> for
> > modifying "Services").
> >
> > This is, now, the second time in a few days that I am reinstalling
> Squeeze,
> > because of this. I've been using it since June, and have had precious few
> > problems with it. This has been the release that I've waited for.
> > However, I am very suspicious that Software Center is the culprit,
> because,
> > after I used it a few times, I hardly touched it, for months. That is,
> > until the other day when I began making heavy use of it. Then, while I
> was
> > using Aptitude to do some updates, the network connections disappeared.
> >
> > Today, it happened while I was doing some of the reinstallations in
> > Software Center. I am currently doing another reinstallation, because
> > nothing I can think of (including using recovery on the installation
> disc)
> > seems to allow me to get anywhere near reinstalling the components -
> > whatever, those may actually be, apart from my guesses.
> >
> > ...Interesting.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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