Saturday, September 11, 2010

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Deb-based Mint

According to the Mint folks they SAY that they are not migrating to Debian.
It is just a side project with no particular destination in mind. However,
if it works who knows where it could lead. Certainly Ubuntu's six month
release cycle is ambitious and a small distro like Mint perhaps cannot
commit long term resources to following it. All of the six month release
cycle distro have corporate backing.

"Ubuntu-Mint" recognises more peripherals because it often includes a newish
kernel which gives the latest drivers and recognition. Debian's stable
kernel is 2.6.27 and Ubuntu's is 2.6.32 (Lucid) and 2.6.35 (Maverick). What
that means is that Debian stable is equivalent to 8.10 in terms of its
kernel. If they use Debian testing or Debian unstable (which Ubuntu uses)
then they can improve device recognition, but if they vase it on Debian
stable then lok for Mint based on Debian to suck. I just read that Debian is
adding Backports which will add some support for newer application releases
(such as OpenOffice). I use MEPIS based on Debian testing and Sidux based on
Debian unstable and both are good at device recognition.

My own opinion is that Mint will lose many users if they switch to Debian.
Ubuntu is always fresh and cutting edge and Debian is old and behind the
times. I call it Debian stale (not stable), BTW. There is much more
information for new users on Ubuntu than Debian and quite frankly Debian
users are not friendly. They are elitist and get hung up on terminology and
proper use. It is GNU/Linux not Linux to them and no you can't install
Firefox because Iceweasel is Firefox you idiot! That sort of thing. Ubuntu
forums tolerate Mint users, but Debian folks won't. ;) Mint has made many
smart decisions and a move to Debian would not be smart for its user base.
So I don't think that it will happen.

BTW, Gdebi is out as of Maverick. Software Centre will handle debs now. So
will Synaptic be gone. You can still install them from the repositories
though.

Roy

On 10 September 2010 11:38, Darksyde <m_alexander61@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Everyone has probably heard the news (esp. Loyal)-- Mint has a Debian-based
> release now. Just curious to hear any thoughts on its potential.
> Personal opinion-- the purist side of me is absolutely thrilled, and this
> may avoid potential problems with the legal issues surrounding some included
> codecs. Then again, Ubuntu-Mint is so darned good at recognizing
> peripherals.
> Mark
> P.S. Call me lazy (it's true) but I just love finding a .deb download so
> that gdebi will do all the work. No wonder I'm a four-year newb!
>
>
>


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