Tuesday, November 30, 2010

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Help choosing the right Linux Distro

 

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 01:20, Scott <scottro@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 05:47:13AM -0000, dbneeley wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I do agree that for most new users the Debian-based distributions tend to be less of a problem than those still clinging to the RPM system. Although Red Hat has claimed for a few years now that they are working on a replacement for RPM that handles dependencies better, so far nothing has been forthcoming.
>>
>
> Not arguing for or against Deb based vs. RH based.  However, yum is,
> IMHO, probably comparable to apt as far as being a front end for rpm as
> apt is to dpkg.  It handles dependencies, gives you ways to work around
> them, and has one nice featuer that may or may not be in apt, the
> "provides"--for example, if you try to build a package and get
> libwhatever.so.5-1/2 not found, you can run
>
> yum provides */libwhatever.so.5-1/2.
>
> It will then search its database, and come back whatever packages may
> provide this particular library.
>
> At any rate, at this time, I'd have to say that yum does do quite well
> at handling dependencies.  Not perfect, it can have problems here and
> there, but of course, so can apt.

For those of us who no longer wear the Red Fedora, there is apt-file like so:

bladernr@klaatu:~$ apt-file search /lib32/libdrm.so.2
ia32-libs: /lib32/libdrm.so.2
ia32-libs: /lib32/libdrm.so.2.4.0

Though you do have to install apt-file as it's not part of the default
apt tool set.

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Help choosing the right Linux Distro

 

On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 05:47:13AM -0000, dbneeley wrote:

>
> I do agree that for most new users the Debian-based distributions tend to be less of a problem than those still clinging to the RPM system. Although Red Hat has claimed for a few years now that they are working on a replacement for RPM that handles dependencies better, so far nothing has been forthcoming.
>

Not arguing for or against Deb based vs. RH based. However, yum is,
IMHO, probably comparable to apt as far as being a front end for rpm as
apt is to dpkg. It handles dependencies, gives you ways to work around
them, and has one nice featuer that may or may not be in apt, the
"provides"--for example, if you try to build a package and get
libwhatever.so.5-1/2 not found, you can run

yum provides */libwhatever.so.5-1/2.

It will then search its database, and come back whatever packages may
provide this particular library.

At any rate, at this time, I'd have to say that yum does do quite well
at handling dependencies. Not perfect, it can have problems here and
there, but of course, so can apt.

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Help choosing the right Linux Distro

 

All Linux distros have a command shell--most commonly bash, although there are numerous others (as with most things in Linux).

Linux doesn't "contain" UNIX--instead, it is a work-alike. In other words, although the kernel is substantially different than the various UNIX variants, it still works the same way and largely duplicates the main UNIX commands. Today, UNIX itself is being rapidly replaced with Linux in most cases--although UNIX will still be around for a good while yet, increasing numbers of former UNIX installations have become Linux ones instead. This is partly because of the huge infrastructure of Linux programs and the attention they get regarding upgrades and innovations compared to anything in the UNIX world, and partly because many proprietary variants of UNIX are quite costly or require very costly hardware. In this age of largely commodity hardware, paying big bucks for special systems doesn't always make sense. (Of course, for some applications it is still very cost-effective to install a mainframe, most of which these days are running Linux!)

It remains a good idea to learn the command line and its primary program resources no matter which Linux version you wind up with. There are many tasks for which it is simply faster and more flexible to use the command line.

There are many Linux programs that will work with your modem; as I think I said before, though, it has been entirely too many years since I dealt with one to remember off the top of my head. However, it should be quite feasible to find specific instructions. For example, a major Linux modem howto is at: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO.html

Notice a major section on serial ports and external modems.

As for the distro question--I would not fear Linux upgrades simply based upon your negative experience with Windows. Usually, upgrading Linux is far less painful than major Windows upgrades have been--or even some "minor" Windows upgrades that have broken things in that system. I do agree that for most new users the Debian-based distributions tend to be less of a problem than those still clinging to the RPM system. Although Red Hat has claimed for a few years now that they are working on a replacement for RPM that handles dependencies better, so far nothing has been forthcoming.

Good luck...

David

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "rkzbos" <jackrossini@...> wrote:
>
> I want to thank everyone that responded to my post here. Because their is a wealth of information to read, I'll just reply back to
> dbneeley and everyone with this post.
>
> I wish to explain a little bit of my situation as a Linux Newbie: Back in the early 1990's, I started out with a 386 PC, DOS 6.? WIN 3.22 and I was amazed and fascinated with the DOS command line and I felt as if I was really using a computer (Too bad Atari 2600 didn't have that when I was younger).
>
> Shortly after Windows kept forcing their upgrades, for years I felt that I was in some kind of a strange computer dilemma. Not only was it very difficult for me to keep up with upgrading computers hardware, software and to another Windows OS, but all of the time that I put into trying to learning DOS -which was no longer important or supported.
>
> As time went by, I learned from the popular belief that "people who use Linux, have more control over their computers, are able to do more with them and are not bombarded with the force upgrades, pop-up and commercialism". "The only problem is that it's harder to learn".
>
> At some point I came across an older computer book and I then became interested in vintage computers such as the Commodore 64/128 and the Apple iie and things such as BBS's, USENET, Majordomo and Telnets. It was to my surprise that their are user groups out there today who are dedicated to these systems and older machines.
>
> About a year ago, I was reading about Unix and learned that it came with all Linux destro. At this point I was dumb-founded to realized that Linux must be a much better OS system, because it has the best of both worlds, the past and the future.
>
> After browsing through different Linux magazines at a store, I wasn't sure which one to purchased. So I then purchased one that came with a Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope Live cd (and installer). Once I got home, I followed the instructions and I installed the cd into two of my Dell computers. Both computers already had XP in them. -Which both now have dual OS's on them. (I use one of the computers as a main computer which I also go online with and the 2nd computer I use as a back up).
>
> After the installation, I went through the desktop menu of Ubuntu to check the different programs and spent a lot of time studying Unix along with my Linux Bible and Linux for Dummies books.
>
> I wasn't able to get Ubuntu to connect online because it can not find my US Robotics external dial up modem. However, it's not such a big deal right now because hopefully sometime next year I hope to have either DSL or a cable modem.
>
> Shortly after from the time I installed Ubuntu 9.04, Ubuntu already came out with an upgrade. This made me a little nervous.
>
> I guess what I am looking for in a Linux destro is a command line such as BASH and to try to connect it online and explore the Linux world to learn more.
>
> Thank you
> rkzbos

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Help choosing the right Linux Distro

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "rkzbos" <jackrossini@...> wrote:
>
> I am interested in learning and running Linux on my PC, but their are many choices to choose from when if comes to which Linux version or Distro to get.
>
> To help narrow it down to my needs, I need a Linux OS for general use and that it doesn't causes me to up grade every 6 months.
> Can someone help explain to me or find information about the differences of the Linux Distros.
>
> rkzbos
>

A Linux distribution with a good upgrade path is always a wise choice. All software needs to be updated on a regular basis. That is just the nature of things.

One of the beauties of Linux is you can try before you buy. When I first started using Linux I distro hopped quite a bit and learned a little with each change I made. I feel it was a good way to gain knowledge of the system.

Make /home on a separate partition and changing will be fairly easy.

Paul

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Help choosing the right Linux Distro

 

I find myself really liking the Debian based distros (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Mint) as they are very easy to use and very simple. I love package managers and the update utilities. The CLI is not that hard to use either. Not to mention that they are getting more and more hardware friendly!!

Give 'em a spin!!

ironmantis7x

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "m" <m_alexander61@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Roy <linuxcanuck@> wrote:
> >
> > Loyal makes a good point about hunting for software, although viruses are
> > not the main Linux problem. Breakage is. Linux shares libraries and they
> > must be of the same generation because Linux has no registry to track
> > different versions. If you work outside of the repositories you are risking
> > destabilising and even breaking your system. So follow his advice and learn
> > the art of using a package manager. It is the best way to update and install
> > packages. As you gain experience then you can think outside the box a bit. I
> > would add to Loyal's point that it is best to forget about that other OS
> > entirely as skills are not transferable and Windows practises can even get
> > you into trouble.
> >
> > Added to what I wrote previously, Live CDs make it easy to try before you
> > install. If you use rewritable CDs or DVDs or usb keys then the only thing
> > it costs is time. Try lots and then you can find a good fit.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > Using Kubuntu 10.10, 64-bit
> > Location: Canada
>
> I just wanted to emphasize one thing Roy mentioned: Live CD's are one of the top one hundred great things about Linux, giving you the opportunity to try before you fly. Mainly this is good to be sure that the particular distro recognizes all of your hardware, but you can check out the "eye candy" (all things held constant, why not have use a distro that looks good too?) and you can check out the package manager to see what goodies are available for the particular distro.
> Everyone has one or more favorites but, as mentioned, Ubuntu, Mint and others that are based on Debian are particularly appealing to new users because Debian files (.deb) are numerous and very easy to install. To me, a five-year newbie, GDebi is one of the greatest tools as it does all the work for you once you have selected a .deb package. Mind you, you won't find everything you want in .deb packs but it's a great beginning.
> Lastly (sorry, I tend to be verbose), you'll hear much about the terminal or Command-line interface (CLI) which could very easily sound intimidating. Fear not, because if you choose one of the more common distro's you will be able to get along pretty well without it...for a while. When you do need it, help is easy to find, especially right here, and there are books, ebooks and free PDF's to download. Based on my experience at least, BASH and other CLI's are a heck of a lot easier and more useful than DOS.
> Keep us up to date with your journey,
> Mark
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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Help choosing the right Linux Distro

I agree that it was a good release for most people. But, as soon as you post
this type of thing the exceptions come flying at you which then turns what
should be a positive into the appearance of a negative. That is why these
types of anecdotal judgements are of little value, for or against. Try it on
your equipment and decide for yourself is the only way.

Roy

Using Kubuntu 10.10, 64-bit
Location: Canada


On 28 November 2010 22:39, westmi <west.mi420@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> That is too bad-
> I have had nothing but success with 10.04.
> Very stable, ubuntu and kubuntu both.
> Installed on more than 5 different pc's.
> D
>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com <LINUX_Newbies%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "loyal_barber" <loyal_barber@...> wrote:
> >
> > See below.
> >
> > --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com <LINUX_Newbies%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Roy <linuxcanuck@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Choosing a distro is like finding a good pair of shoes.
> > > Huge <snip>
> >
> > > You cannot skip versions.
> >
> > Yes you can. You just may not be able to use the "Upgrade" tool
> > included with the distro to do your upgrade. I have not found
> > these "upgrade" programs to be stable anyway. Here is my experience:
> > I ran Ubuntu 9.04 until 10.04 LTS came out. At that point I used
> > the included upgrade tool to go from 9.04 to 9.10. Everything worked
> > great. Ran it a couple of days then did the 9.10 to 10.04 upgrade.
> > Total disaster. The system would not even boot. Ended up having
> > to install 10.04 clean. BTW there were problems there too but I
> > get to those below.
> >
> >
> > > You should know this up front. If
> > > you want stability then install 10.04 and not 10.10.
> > >
> >
> > I could not disagree with this statement more. In general, what he
> > is saying is true. 10.04 is a long term support version so it should
> > be viable for three years. My experience is that 10.04 is just a
> > bad release. Canonical, the Ubuntu folks by committing to a six
> > month release cycle have been notorious for putting out some
> > really bad releases. 10.04 IMO is one of these. They tried to
> > change a lot for 10.04 and the release has much to be desired in
> > terms of functionality and stability. I believe they finally got
> > it right with 10.10. When I did my clean install on 10.04 it again
> > crapped out and would not boot. Not to be deterred, I tried
> > installing it on a different machine a laptop. It took me three
> > tries before I got it to work and then only because I used an
> > external monitor on the laptop I was using. The new graphical
> > welcome screen simply would not display on the internal laptop
> > panel. On my desktop machine, I never found a way to get past this
> > so I went with a Beta version of 10.10 which installed flawlessly.
> > On my desktop where I use Ubuntu, I eventually re-installed the
> > 10.10 final release. For me, 10.04 was just a flawed release and
> > that is too bad since it is an LTS release. I highly recommend
> > against using it or any distro based on it.
> >
> >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > > Using Kubuntu 10.10, 64-bit
> > > Location: Canada
> > > <snip>
> > <LINUX_Newbies%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > "rkzbos" <jackrossini@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am interested in learning and running Linux on my PC, but their
> are
> > > > many choices to choose from when if comes to which Linux version or
> Distro
> > > > to get.
> > > > >
> > > > > To help narrow it down to my needs, I need a Linux OS for general
> use and
> > > > that it doesn't causes me to up grade every 6 months.
> > > > > Can someone help explain to me or find information about the
> differences
> > > > of the Linux Distros.
> > > > >
> > > > > rkzbos
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>
>


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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Help choosing the right Linux Distro

 

I want to thank everyone that responded to my post here. Because their is a wealth of information to read, I'll just reply back to
dbneeley and everyone with this post.

I wish to explain a little bit of my situation as a Linux Newbie: Back in the early 1990's, I started out with a 386 PC, DOS 6.? WIN 3.22 and I was amazed and fascinated with the DOS command line and I felt as if I was really using a computer (Too bad Atari 2600 didn't have that when I was younger).

Shortly after Windows kept forcing their upgrades, for years I felt that I was in some kind of a strange computer dilemma. Not only was it very difficult for me to keep up with upgrading computers hardware, software and to another Windows OS, but all of the time that I put into trying to learning DOS -which was no longer important or supported.

As time went by, I learned from the popular belief that "people who use Linux, have more control over their computers, are able to do more with them and are not bombarded with the force upgrades, pop-up and commercialism". "The only problem is that it's harder to learn".

At some point I came across an older computer book and I then became interested in vintage computers such as the Commodore 64/128 and the Apple iie and things such as BBS's, USENET, Majordomo and Telnets. It was to my surprise that their are user groups out there today who are dedicated to these systems and older machines.

About a year ago, I was reading about Unix and learned that it came with all Linux destro. At this point I was dumb-founded to realized that Linux must be a much better OS system, because it has the best of both worlds, the past and the future.

After browsing through different Linux magazines at a store, I wasn't sure which one to purchased. So I then purchased one that came with a Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope Live cd (and installer). Once I got home, I followed the instructions and I installed the cd into two of my Dell computers. Both computers already had XP in them. -Which both now have dual OS's on them. (I use one of the computers as a main computer which I also go online with and the 2nd computer I use as a back up).

After the installation, I went through the desktop menu of Ubuntu to check the different programs and spent a lot of time studying Unix along with my Linux Bible and Linux for Dummies books.

I wasn't able to get Ubuntu to connect online because it can not find my US Robotics external dial up modem. However, it's not such a big deal right now because hopefully sometime next year I hope to have either DSL or a cable modem.

Shortly after from the time I installed Ubuntu 9.04, Ubuntu already came out with an upgrade. This made me a little nervous.

I guess what I am looking for in a Linux destro is a command line such as BASH and to try to connect it online and explore the Linux world to learn more.

Thank you
rkzbos

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "dbneeley" <dbneeley@...> wrote:
>
> First, I wouldn't be so worried about upgrades. I presently use the latest release of Kubuntu--and it has updates nearly every day, since Linux and the thousands of projects change rapidly. Most of those changes are actually improvements, and the functionality continues to improve through the efforts of tens of thousands of developers.
>
> Also, if you set up the distribution you select with a separate /home partition, upgrading becomes extremely simple.
>
> As for distributions--there are some who don't have major upgrade schedules--but they generally have continuous updates.
>
> If you are like most newcomers, you will tend to want a distribution at first that is easy to use in moving from Windows. Later, as your knowledge matures, most folks want to branch out a little and try new versions.
>
> Many on this list seem drawn to Mint. I think another one that a newcomer may like is called Simply Mepis, which has just released a major new version.
>
> Much depends, too, upon what hardware you will be running it on. If it's an older box with comparatively fewer hardware resources, you may prefer a lightweight distribution that will run optimally on it. By contrast, if you have a newer machine with plenty of RAM, you may be perfectly happy with one of the more elaborate ones.
>
> Fortunately, since most distributions today come in Live CD variants, you can try a few out easily enough and choose what appeals to you the most.
>
> The majority of Linux users will be partial to the distribution they are presently using--"ease of use" is largely a matter of what you are used to, after all.
>
> Personally, I created an extra partition when I set up my machine that I can use for the root filesystem of a second distribution. That way, I can experiment without nuking the primary one I use most often. One of my projects today, in fact, is to try yet another one--but it is an early development version of a new distro called Bodhi that uses the Enlightenment window manager--but it is far from feature complete, so I would not want to have it as my only distribution.
>
> Assuming a relatively recent machine, to me your first choice should be the primary windowing system you want to use. The "big two" are Gnome and KDE, but there are some appealing options such as LXDE and XFCE, for example.
>
> Although it has a six-month major release cycle, the various Ubuntu variants have some advantages for new Linux users, I believe. These include not only the official Cononical versions but also Ubuntu-based ones such as Mint and quite a few others.
>
> Finally, although major versions do upgrade in the Ubuntu universe, there is no reason you must upgrade each time if you choose not to. I know several people who use their "Long Term Support" versions and only do a major version upgrade when a new LTS variant comes out.
>
> David
>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "rkzbos" <jackrossini@> wrote:
> >
> > I am interested in learning and running Linux on my PC, but their are many choices to choose from when if comes to which Linux version or Distro to get.
> >
> > To help narrow it down to my needs, I need a Linux OS for general use and that it doesn't causes me to up grade every 6 months.
> > Can someone help explain to me or find information about the differences of the Linux Distros.
> >
> > rkzbos
> >
>

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Monday, November 29, 2010

[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Help choosing the right Linux Distro

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Roy <linuxcanuck@...> wrote:
>
> Loyal makes a good point about hunting for software, although viruses are
> not the main Linux problem. Breakage is. Linux shares libraries and they
> must be of the same generation because Linux has no registry to track
> different versions. If you work outside of the repositories you are risking
> destabilising and even breaking your system. So follow his advice and learn
> the art of using a package manager. It is the best way to update and install
> packages. As you gain experience then you can think outside the box a bit. I
> would add to Loyal's point that it is best to forget about that other OS
> entirely as skills are not transferable and Windows practises can even get
> you into trouble.
>
> Added to what I wrote previously, Live CDs make it easy to try before you
> install. If you use rewritable CDs or DVDs or usb keys then the only thing
> it costs is time. Try lots and then you can find a good fit.
>
> Roy
>
> Using Kubuntu 10.10, 64-bit
> Location: Canada

I just wanted to emphasize one thing Roy mentioned: Live CD's are one of the top one hundred great things about Linux, giving you the opportunity to try before you fly. Mainly this is good to be sure that the particular distro recognizes all of your hardware, but you can check out the "eye candy" (all things held constant, why not have use a distro that looks good too?) and you can check out the package manager to see what goodies are available for the particular distro.
Everyone has one or more favorites but, as mentioned, Ubuntu, Mint and others that are based on Debian are particularly appealing to new users because Debian files (.deb) are numerous and very easy to install. To me, a five-year newbie, GDebi is one of the greatest tools as it does all the work for you once you have selected a .deb package. Mind you, you won't find everything you want in .deb packs but it's a great beginning.
Lastly (sorry, I tend to be verbose), you'll hear much about the terminal or Command-line interface (CLI) which could very easily sound intimidating. Fear not, because if you choose one of the more common distro's you will be able to get along pretty well without it...for a while. When you do need it, help is easy to find, especially right here, and there are books, ebooks and free PDF's to download. Based on my experience at least, BASH and other CLI's are a heck of a lot easier and more useful than DOS.
Keep us up to date with your journey,
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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: nice

 

On 29Nov2010 04:16, westmi <west.mi420@gmail.com> wrote:
| I was wondering how to permanently change the "niceness" of a process,
| like, let say, firefox.

If it is already running you want the "renice" command.

Otherwise you need to arrange to start it with your desired niceness.
And that depends on how you start firefox...
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[LINUX_Newbies] nice

 

I was wondering how to permanently change the "niceness" of a process,
like, let say, firefox.
Thanks,
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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Help choosing the right Linux Distro

 

That is too bad-
I have had nothing but success with 10.04.
Very stable, ubuntu and kubuntu both.
Installed on more than 5 different pc's.
D

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "loyal_barber" <loyal_barber@...> wrote:
>
> See below.
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Roy <linuxcanuck@> wrote:
> >
> > Choosing a distro is like finding a good pair of shoes.
> > Huge <snip>
>
> > You cannot skip versions.
>
> Yes you can. You just may not be able to use the "Upgrade" tool
> included with the distro to do your upgrade. I have not found
> these "upgrade" programs to be stable anyway. Here is my experience:
> I ran Ubuntu 9.04 until 10.04 LTS came out. At that point I used
> the included upgrade tool to go from 9.04 to 9.10. Everything worked
> great. Ran it a couple of days then did the 9.10 to 10.04 upgrade.
> Total disaster. The system would not even boot. Ended up having
> to install 10.04 clean. BTW there were problems there too but I
> get to those below.
>
>
> > You should know this up front. If
> > you want stability then install 10.04 and not 10.10.
> >
>
> I could not disagree with this statement more. In general, what he
> is saying is true. 10.04 is a long term support version so it should
> be viable for three years. My experience is that 10.04 is just a
> bad release. Canonical, the Ubuntu folks by committing to a six
> month release cycle have been notorious for putting out some
> really bad releases. 10.04 IMO is one of these. They tried to
> change a lot for 10.04 and the release has much to be desired in
> terms of functionality and stability. I believe they finally got
> it right with 10.10. When I did my clean install on 10.04 it again
> crapped out and would not boot. Not to be deterred, I tried
> installing it on a different machine a laptop. It took me three
> tries before I got it to work and then only because I used an
> external monitor on the laptop I was using. The new graphical
> welcome screen simply would not display on the internal laptop
> panel. On my desktop machine, I never found a way to get past this
> so I went with a Beta version of 10.10 which installed flawlessly.
> On my desktop where I use Ubuntu, I eventually re-installed the
> 10.10 final release. For me, 10.04 was just a flawed release and
> that is too bad since it is an LTS release. I highly recommend
> against using it or any distro based on it.
>
>
> > <snip>
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > Using Kubuntu 10.10, 64-bit
> > Location: Canada
> > <snip>
> <LINUX_Newbies%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "rkzbos" <jackrossini@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am interested in learning and running Linux on my PC, but their are
> > > many choices to choose from when if comes to which Linux version or Distro
> > > to get.
> > > >
> > > > To help narrow it down to my needs, I need a Linux OS for general use and
> > > that it doesn't causes me to up grade every 6 months.
> > > > Can someone help explain to me or find information about the differences
> > > of the Linux Distros.
> > > >
> > > > rkzbos
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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