Thursday, December 31, 2009

Re: [Java] abt java - NOT .NET!!

 

Yeah, .NET ties you to an archaic operating system (it's totally
non-portable) that blue-screens you too much. At least with Java and JEE
you can move between systems as desired/needed.

<getting off soapbox />

Sorry. This response was just too tempting.

.NET and Java are *both* used extensively wherever you go. I work on a
U.S. Army contract that uses both, but they're slowly moving away from
.NET and other Microsoft technologies.

BTW - what does .NET have that Java does not?

-Java Guy

archit mehta wrote:
>
>
> i am not expert but i think you should know both perfectly in case you
> have to select once then i prefer .NET because at the moment it is
> extensively used in companies.
>
> java`s application is some what different that .NET but .NET has
> somethig what java doesn`t have.
> thank you
>
> --- On Thu, 24/12/09, surendra sontakke
> <surendrass_2410@rediffmail.com
> <mailto:surendrass_2410%40rediffmail.com>> wrote:
>
> From: surendra sontakke <surendrass_2410@rediffmail.com
> <mailto:surendrass_2410%40rediffmail.com>>
> Subject: [Java] abt java
> To: Java_Official@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Java_Official%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, 24 December, 2009, 12:05 PM
>
>
>
> Resp Sir,
>
> I have completed my MCM in 2009. I am in confusion whether to go JAVA
> or .NET.
>
> .Net some what easy to m. But i heard, right now java has good future.
>
> so pls help me from this confusion.
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Surendra
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage.
> http://in.yahoo.com/ <http://in.yahoo.com/>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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[LINUX_Newbies] Attn loyal barber, Re: Connect to MS Home Network

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Grump" <fuelg44@...> wrote:
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "loyal_barber" <loyal_barber@...>
>
> >> <snip>
> > Glad to hear things are better. I am going to have to study your
> > issue of not being able to see things from the Mint computer. BTW,
> > many others recommended doing this from the command line and to
> > an extent, they are correct. Getting into the command line is a
> > good thing all said. However, since this is a newbies list and
> > since the system-config-samba tool works SO well, I just don't see
> > the point for what you wanted and given that you are a brand new
> > convert. I do hope that you find Mint as good as I have. I run
> > several machines with CentOS and one Ubuntu. On my traveling and
> > working machine, my laptop, I run Mint. It just works beautifully.
> >
> > Loyal
>
> Hi loyal,
> I'm afraid the syntax required in using the command line is mostly still
> well over my head at this point
> however I'm very impressed with all the features I've discovered in Mint so
> far.
> Managed to get virtualbox running with XP this evening so I still have
> access to those items not available in Linux.
> Also trying to come to grips with Thunderbird as a replacement for OE.
> Steep learning curve at present but I'm actually doing more now on this
> spare Mint box now than on my main PC!
> Thanks again for your assistance.
> G.
>
Loyal got me into Mint also and I love the hell out of it! One keeps hearing that "Linux isn't ready for the desktop" or such but I believe that Mint (and other *buntu derivatives) make this a difficult statement to defend. I found Vista to be much more alien (after using XP) than Mint, and the amount of drive space I saved by dumping Vista was unbelievable!
Cogito ergo Linux,
Mark

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[nslu2-linux] Re: How to find ipkgs when the ipkgfind site is dead?!

 



Thanks! That works. It's almost the same as the website.
Just did: ipkg search *file-to-search*

Thanks, Remco

--- In nslu2-linux@yahoogroups.com, "sjaak0vaak" <bbnht.xob2@...> wrote:
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> Ok thanks, I will try that.
>
> Cheers, Remco
>
> --- In nslu2-linux@yahoogroups.com, Mike Westerhof <mwester@> wrote:
> >
> > sjaak0vaak wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > How do you find ipkg packages when the ipkgfind site isn't working.
> > > ( http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/ )
> >
> > Depending on your firmware, "ipkg list" or "opkg list".
> >
> > -Mike (mwester)
> >
>

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[nslu2-linux] Re: Java 5 (for Subsonic) on unslung 6.10

 

Java 5 is a dead end on nslu2, especially on unslung.
Even though you might be able to install openjdk on debian slug, it's slow.

-Brian

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> Hello. I've currently got an NSLU2 running unslung 6.10, along with a nice
> server-side (MPD) PHP-based music proggy (relaxx player - very nice!). I'd
> like to play around with another music server called Subsonic (
> http://subsonic.sourceforge.net), which has a sweet client for Android
> phones. The installation apparently requires Java 5 (
> http://subsonic.sourceforge.net/installation.php).
>
> I searched older posts to this group, and saw that at least one user asked
> if this community had any experience with running Subsonic. Ultimately s/he
> was directed toward other music server alternatives.
>
> So, the questions:
>
> - Has anyone successfully gotten Subsonic running on the Slug? If so, could
> you provide guidance for replication? If not, are there obvious technical
> reasons why I shouldn't bother attempting? (Perhaps system requirements?)
>
> - Assuming no one has tried running Subsonic, is it possible to install Java
> 5 on the Slug? I searched the wiki, and found this (
> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseJavaOnTheSlug) but the instructions
> are a bit intimidating (compared to other Slug "recipes" I've found), and
> clearly intended for a more advanced user than I. It was unclear to me what
> version of Java those instructions were for... it also involved compiling
> binaries, which I have zero experience with, and would prefer to avoid, if
> at all possible.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

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Re: [Java] abt java

 

i am not expert but i think you should know both perfectly in case you have to select once then i prefer .NET because at the moment it is extensively used in companies.

java`s application is some what different that .NET but .NET has somethig what java doesn`t have.
thank you

--- On Thu, 24/12/09, surendra sontakke <surendrass_2410@rediffmail.com> wrote:

From: surendra sontakke <surendrass_2410@rediffmail.com>
Subject: [Java] abt java
To: Java_Official@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 24 December, 2009, 12:05 PM

 

Resp Sir,

I have completed my MCM in 2009. I am in confusion whether to go JAVA or .NET.

.Net some what easy to m. But i heard, right now java has good future.

so pls help me from this confusion.

- - - - - - - - - - - -

Thanks & Regards

Surendra

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[Java] Re:

 

hi,java professionals
how to make  an image background  to JPanel,and JFrame?
how to delete a particular element from the JList?
how to make back to back images in a JLabel?

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[nslu2-linux] Re: How to find ipkgs when the ipkgfind site is dead?!

 

Ok thanks, I will try that.

Cheers, Remco

--- In nslu2-linux@yahoogroups.com, Mike Westerhof <mwester@...> wrote:
>
> sjaak0vaak wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > How do you find ipkg packages when the ipkgfind site isn't working.
> > ( http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/ )
>
> Depending on your firmware, "ipkg list" or "opkg list".
>
> -Mike (mwester)
>

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Wednesday, December 30, 2009

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Attn loyal barber, Re: Connect to MS HomeNetwork

 

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:13:55PM +1100, Grump wrote:
>
> > Scott Robbins wrote
>
> I like Puppy & Ubuntu but ran into multiple 'too hard sessions' in setting
> them up to my requirements.
> So far I've found Mint has been much easier.

Each distribution has its good and bad points. My biggest problem with
Mint is that since the head developer requested that those who support
Israel don't use it, I don't feel comfortable using it.

--
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Cordelia: I came over here to tell Buffy to stop this
craziness, and
found you all unconscious--again. How many times have you been
knocked out, anyway? I swear, one of these times, you're going
to wake up in a coma.
Giles: Wake up in a...? Oh, never mind. We need to save Buffy from
Hansel and Gretel.
Cordelia: Now, let's be clear. The brain damage happened before I hit
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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Attn loyal barber, Re: Connect to MS HomeNetwork

 


> Scott Robbins wrote

> Better get used to not using OE--Windows 7 doesn't include a mail
> client. :)
>
> Thunderbird is probably somewhat better though. I only use both of them
> on occasion, as I have to support them, but my own expertise is with
> mutt.
> Scott Robbins

I've downloaded & had a look at W7 + W. Live Mail but want no part of
either.
This, along with the demise of XP & OE has strengthened my desire to switch
to Linux.
I like Puppy & Ubuntu but ran into multiple 'too hard sessions' in setting
them up to my requirements.
So far I've found Mint has been much easier.
G.

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Disabling Install on Live CD's

 

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 15:06, Darksyde <m_alexander61@yahoo.com> wrote:

>  Thanks, Jeff, I'll peruse the files next time I am about to burn a disk.  You're right, of
> course, about it being nearly impossible to install accidentally but some friends have
> teenagers...need I say more?

HAH... that's all the better... break them of the Windows habit early ;-)

For what it's worth, you can just mount the iso and look at it any
time you want...

mount /path/to/iso /path/to/mount/point -o loop

I usually make a temp mount point for mounting isos... something like
/media/iso...

Cheers
Jeff

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Re: [nslu2-linux] Re: Help with unslinging

 

Hi

I reformatted the drive with windows, NTFS did not work
Tried yet another time with the web GUI, worked...
 
Kristoffer Pettersson

 


From: rolandkbs <roland.krebs@koff.ch>
To: nslu2-linux@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 3:03:25 PM
Subject: [nslu2-linux] Re: Help with unslinging

 

Have you already formatted the drive using the Web-GUI?

Roland

--- In nslu2-linux@ yahoogroups. com, "kristoffer_ pettersson" <kristoffer_ pettersson@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> My primary HDD crashed.
> I have bough a new Segate 500GB USB.
> I took the oportunity to upgrade to 6.10.
> It boots to firmware in flash, when conducting "unsling disk1" it times out with this error message:
> # unsling disk1
> Waiting for /share/hdd/data ...
> 1
> Error: /share/hdd/data (disk1, /dev/sdb1) is not a mounted disk
>
> Any ideas?
>


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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: Disabling Install on Live CD's

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, J <dreadpiratejeff@...> wrote:
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> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 13:15, Darksyde <m_alexander61@...> wrote:
> >  How would I go about disabling the Install feature on a distro (most often it'll be Ubuntu or a
> > derivative) before burning it to disk?  I'd like to feel more comfortable giving out distro's to
> > friends and knowing that they can't accidentally install the system would be of great
> > comfort.
> >  Thanks,
> >  Mark
>
> The short answer is this:
>
> extract the ISO's contents to a directory.
> edit all the stuff that does installing (any boot loader entries,
> desktop links, etc)
> rebuild new ISO images.
> Burn new ISO images.
>
> That is all...
>
> Do some reading on rolling your own bootable ISO images for tips on
> how to actually do this. It's semi-trivial, meaning it's not hard,
> but it can be a complicated process.
>
> Also, does it really matter. It's really HARD to accidentally install
> an OS. If the ISO includes a "Install OS" boot option, usually they
> have to specifically select that, then they have to manually do some
> things IN the installer, getting past at least one or two screens that
> say "Installing $OS". If it only provides an install option from
> within the live system, via a tool, or desktop link, then they have to
> actively click that link or tool, and again pass the "I'm going to
> INSTALL on your computer" screens, as well as do a few other things
> and actually say OK to the "do you want to continue and install this
> over your computer" screens that most installers come with.
>
> I can't, off hand, really think of any Linux OS that comes with an
> automatic, hands-off, destructive installation option that doesn't
> require some sort of user involvement (e.g. selecting the destructive
> option at boot as it's not the default, booting in a PXE environment
> with an auto-boot script like autoyast.xml or ks.cfg).
>
> Even the windows install disks don't just automatically destroy a
> working system when you boot from them (with the exception of special
> ISOs specifically built for quickly installing OEM systems, and even
> then those are usually installed via disk imaging than actual
> installation).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff

Thanks, Jeff, I'll peruse the files next time I am about to burn a disk. You're right, of course, about it being nearly impossible to install accidentally but some friends have teenagers...need I say more?
Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Disabling Install on Live CD's

 

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 13:15, Darksyde <m_alexander61@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  How would I go about disabling the Install feature on a distro (most often it'll be Ubuntu or a
> derivative) before burning it to disk?  I'd like to feel more comfortable giving out distro's to
> friends and knowing that they can't accidentally install the system would be of great
> comfort.
>  Thanks,
>  Mark

The short answer is this:

extract the ISO's contents to a directory.
edit all the stuff that does installing (any boot loader entries,
desktop links, etc)
rebuild new ISO images.
Burn new ISO images.

That is all...

Do some reading on rolling your own bootable ISO images for tips on
how to actually do this. It's semi-trivial, meaning it's not hard,
but it can be a complicated process.

Also, does it really matter. It's really HARD to accidentally install
an OS. If the ISO includes a "Install OS" boot option, usually they
have to specifically select that, then they have to manually do some
things IN the installer, getting past at least one or two screens that
say "Installing $OS". If it only provides an install option from
within the live system, via a tool, or desktop link, then they have to
actively click that link or tool, and again pass the "I'm going to
INSTALL on your computer" screens, as well as do a few other things
and actually say OK to the "do you want to continue and install this
over your computer" screens that most installers come with.

I can't, off hand, really think of any Linux OS that comes with an
automatic, hands-off, destructive installation option that doesn't
require some sort of user involvement (e.g. selecting the destructive
option at boot as it's not the default, booting in a PXE environment
with an auto-boot script like autoyast.xml or ks.cfg).

Even the windows install disks don't just automatically destroy a
working system when you boot from them (with the exception of special
ISOs specifically built for quickly installing OEM systems, and even
then those are usually installed via disk imaging than actual
installation).

Cheers,

Jeff

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