FEW MORE QUESTIONS.....
you wrote <<<1) I installed the modem software. >>> How with no
connection ?
*Have you ever run Update Manager yet ?* You will not be able to install
software and other features until the first use of *Update Manager *is
run with full security and recommended updates as well as neccessary
packages and fixes to bring the system up to date. When you first
install a computer system, it has basic connectivity and you always have
to run all the updates / upgrades / patches / fixes to get it up to
speed and operational as expected - all features now working. No
different in Linux.
BASIC CONNECTIVITY.... again basic connection to the internet and you
MUST run Update Manager and install all to get the system running full
featured. There are like debian packages thingies (like Windows
Installer) and the Ubuntu Software Center thingies and Synaptics
Packages Manager has to be installed to use that for additional packages
for softwares that has all kinds of extras and so on.
you wrote <<< a) Could not configure a Dial-Up connection using
Networking Option – Networking does not exist. >>>
What does that mean ? Ubuntu and Linux comes with a connection manager
pre-installed to gain instant internet access upon any install. This is
at the top tray bar about right center. Right click it for options to
set up a connection for like Wired, Broadband, Wi Fi Wireless etc. In
Ubuntu right click it (should be up and down little arrows icon) and
then click EDIT CONNECTIONS.
To begin, I believe this is the starting place for enacting dial up
connection. You click New Connection at Wired which is also where
ethernet connects with the name of that connection as " Auto eth0 ".
When you click new wireless connection you must name it " wlan0" .
For Dial Up you must name it ? ? ? I don't know never did it yet. We
need someone to tell us the name of the Dial Up connection in the
Connection Manager to enable dial up and set up the settings there. I do
not believe Linux wil work for dial up no matter what you do until this
new connection is named properly and there. I am sure of that because
every Linux I ever installed came out of the box with ethernet dsl named
and set to go. This is true as well with Debian for "net installs" and
you must have the wireless connection named "wlan0" to enable it or you
can not do that wirelessly which Debian has for a net install of Linux
wirelessly from as many as 30 wi fi hotspots around you.
So it goes, Linux is not going to work for a dial up connection until
you name the new connection to enable dial up whcih is going to
something like Auto ppp maybe - I don't know - just a wild stab in the
dark.
I will search this down but it will save us both a lot of trouble if an
existing member using dial up can tell us. Whatever you were saying
about "Networking" not working - this is the Connection Manager and
where you start on Linux. It is a very simple powerful Connection
Manager that gives instant access to the Internet upon install using dsl
out of the box. On Wi-Fi it is automatic as soon as you name the new
connection and I set in my Home Network name a nd security key and have
never had a problem on three different type computers. The Netbook
sniffs out all active connections anywhere I go wirelessly. I have never
had to add anything to the default Connection Manger in Linux though
there are several available.
I think this is your only problem - the dial up new connection name.
There is nothing in the pre-installed Linux Connection Manager missing
or not working at all. It comes ready and working out of the box (new
install).
gerald philly pa usa
https://sites.google.com/site/linuxducks/home
http://linuxducks.webs.com/
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On 06/25/2011 06:11 AM, g.linuxducks wrote:
> Okay, some software available in Ubuntu Software Center... (software
> repository)
>
> Search Word for Software "*dial*" .....
>
> *To find software installed* - open Ubuntu Software Center > *click
> Installed Software tab *or simply type in the name of the software and
> they are bold type highlighted below as search by name...
>
> /*FOUND INSTALLED / should be installed already... */
>
> # *Point-to-Point Protocol* .....provides a standard way to transmit
> datagrams over a serial link, as well as a standard way for the
> machines at either end of the link to negotiate various optional
> characteristics of the link. This package is most commonly used to
> manage a modem for dial-up or certain kinds of broadband connections.
>
> # *Text menu based utility for configuring ppp *
> .....It provides extensive explanations at each step. pppconfig
> supports PAP, CHAP, and chat methods of authentication. It uses the
> standard ppp configuration files and sets ppp up so that the standard
> pon and poff commands can be used to control ppp. Some features
> supported by pppconfig are: ....
>
> *Okay, so PPP is onboard and the PPPCONFIG utility*
>
> _/*Software Search / Ubuntu Software Center*/_
>
> This is KDE but may work on Ubuntu desktop....
> # *KPPP* .....is a modem dialer for connecting to a dial-up Internet
> Service Provider. It displays statistics and accounting information to
> help users keep track of connection costs. This package is part of the
> KDE 4 networking module. Canonical provides critical updates for KPPP
> until April 2012.
>
> # *GNOME PPP* .....is an easy to use graphical dialup connection
> configuring and dialing tool with system tray icon support. It uses
> GNOME/GTK+ for its graphical interface and integrates well in GNOME
> desktop environment, but it can be used in other environments. It also
> uses WvDial dialer as its backend, providing simple configuration via
> config files. You can also use plain wvdial if you don't have X running.
> Homepage: http://www.gnome-ppp.org/
>
> # *WvDial *.....sacrifices some of the flexibility of programs like
> "chat" in order to make your dialup configuration easier. When you
> install this package, your modem will be detected automatically and
> you need to specify just three parameters: the phone number, username,
> and password. WvDial knows enough to dial with most modems and log in
> to most servers without any other help. In particular, you no longer
> need a "chat script" to handle the most common situations. Canonical
> provides critical updates for PPP dialer with built-in intelligence
> until April 2012.
>
> ----
> Not recommended...... call your ISP ! Warned !
> *Slirp* is a TCP/IP emulator which turns an ordinary shell account
> into a (C)SLIP/PPP account. This allows shell users to use all the
> funky Internet applications like Netscape, Mosaic, CUSeeMe, etc.
> Please note that maybe your ISP really doesn't like you using slirp,
> because they want to charge more for a ppp connection, so use it at
> your own risk.
>
>
>
> On 06/25/2011 05:47 AM, g.linuxducks wrote:
>> <<<I can only access the internet using dial-up. I want to switch
>> from using Windows XP to Ubuntu. >>>
>>
>> So to start from the beginning so I can help, others, your SET UP is
>> you have a desktop XP PC and have already installed Ubuntu 10.04 in a
>> dual boot system ? Correct ? You have only Dial Up service - no
>> broadband/dsl or wireless modem card ? Correct ?
>>
>> One reason for asking is the ability to install software/packages
>> into Linux without existing dial up connectivity yet. I have worked
>> with CAB Files install on mobile computers and 'tar'. Your Desktop
>> does have a CD Drawer - correct ?
>>
>> Let's begin there for help knowing what we are looking at and by the
>> way the rest you have covered very well as to where things are now in
>> attempts already.
>>
>> Yes, Linux out of the box is ethernet ready (broadband/dsl) and
>> wireless Wi-Fi has been my complete expereince with Debian, Ubuntu
>> and a couple others. I am/would be really surprised that a Linux
>> distro is not dail up ready out of the box - meaning install it and
>> connect. Being on home network my self leaving dial up years ago is
>> why I am not up to par on Linux dial up. This will be a big no-no if
>> bad press gets a hold of the idea that Linux out of the box can not
>> connect to dial up without installing software which takes an
>> internet connection . There must be connectivity here over looked
>> because Linux is shipped pre-installed in desktops. In other words,
>> they would be a laughing stock to do such is the bad press I mean.
>> Who would buy one ? right.
>>
>> gerald philly pa usa
>>
>>
>> On 06/25/2011 05:02 AM, g.linuxducks wrote:
>>> hiya Fred.... I don't want to mislead you in that I have only done
>>> ethernet (broadband/dsl) and wireless Wi-Fi connectivity so far on
>>> Linux. (Settled on Ubuntu Linux, have will try others here and there
>>> since Linux is even fun to use).
>>>
>>> You actually have more experience than I do at Linux dial up. The
>>> one point is though that I would throw a call into your current ISP
>>> and say like I have installed Linux and is that okay to use on my
>>> subscription. The simple point is that I am trying to convey is that
>>> the ISP specifically for Linux may not allow dial up connectivity.
>>> Doubtful, maybe. This is generally only dial up whereas does not
>>> generally come into play with ethernet and wi-fi home network.
>>>
>>> Like I said I don;t want to mislead you in that I have no first hand
>>> experience in setting up dial up yet with Linux. However, I am
>>> getting to know my way around on Linux very well and would rate
>>> myself as still an Intermediate user as opposed to an advanced user
>>> knowing the system like the back of their hand.
>>>
>>> Yes, running a terminal - do an app get - locate missing packages -
>>> doing a disk check.... yes I have experience with that so I am
>>> learning with you here as I am interested in my Notebook with Linux
>>> that has all three - ethernet, wireless, and dial up. It is good to
>>> have contingencies if something fails elsewhere.
>>>
>>> I am doing the run through over the weekend and how long this takes
>>> to actually set up my notebook for Linux dial up connectivity. Just
>>> being that little bit savvy and not afraid of opening a Terminal
>>> (like DOS Command Prompt in windows) and run commands has anyone
>>> well on their way to being an advanced user. No problem.
>>>
>>> For the record I will be connecting Ubuntu Linux 10.10.
>>>
>>> All it will take is the proper installation of any software not
>>> installed (add any packages), proper ISP settings, and a first check
>>> to make sure the dial up modem is in fact working - operational. Done.
>>>
>>> On 06/23/2011 05:01 PM, Fred Lieberman wrote:
>>>> Hi Gerald,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for not getting back sooner. I have been pretty busy.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Setting up Dial-up connection in Ubuntu
>>>> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you. It is a great tutorial with great pictures.
>>>> The other group did recommend this website to me. Unfortunately,
>>>> it was put together at the end of 2006. There is some indication
>>>> on the web that it is outdated for 10.04. I can now understand why
>>>> I had a difficult time using it.
>>>> a) Could not configure a Dial-Up connection using Networking Option
>>>> – Networking does not exist.
>>>> b) Did configure a Dial-Up Connection using pppconfig
>>>> c) Did the sudo adduser YOURNAMEHERE dip
>>>> d) Tried to do the sudo adduser YOURNAMEHERE dialout and it did not
>>>> accept it.
>>>> e) pon comcast does not work
>>>> f) Could not install GNOME PPP, because I could not dial out.
>>>>
>>>> So, that is where I stand.
>>>>
>>>> I downloaded Gnome ppp to a thumb drive but could not install it
>>>> because WV Dial was not in the machine. I found WV Dial, but there
>>>> were four versions. I am not sure which one of the four to use.
>>>> To install any of the four requires about 10 programs which should
>>>> be on the machine. Do not know how to verify if these programs
>>>> already exist on the computer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One more note. Mepis is not a good choice for me, unless I add
>>>> more RAM. It requires a minimum of 1 G of RAM. On the other hand,
>>>> it does appear to have the programs installed for dial-up. At this
>>>> point, I want to explore Ubuntu before going on to something else.
>>>>
>>>> Fred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CORRECTED TUTORIAL LINK... i think the hot link in last message
>>>> went to linux.about.com or similar by mistake pasting....
>>>>
>>>> Setting up Dial-up connection in Ubuntu
>>>> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html
>>>>
>>>> Great tutorial with step by step pictures / screenshots.
>>>>
>>>> gerald philly pa usa
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> My name is Fred. I am 68 and I live upstate NY.
>>>>> I can only access the internet using dial-up.
>>>>> I want to switch from using Windows XP to Ubuntu.
>>>>> My ISP will not help me as they quote unquote: do not support that
>>>>> product.
>>>>>
>>>>> MAJOR ISSUE - How do I access the internet using Ubuntu regardless
>>>>> of my ISP, while remaining on dial-up.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the members of the Yahoo Ubuntu group suggested this group
>>>>> with the hope you may be able to solve my problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BACKGROUND
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Where I live, high speed internet is not available outside of
>>>>> satellite.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) My desktop (2004 - XP) developed issues some of which I cleared
>>>>> up, some I have yet to clear up, some I do not trust on the machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Months ago, I installed Ubuntu 10.04.1 (dual boot) from a CD
>>>>> (DVD unit not working).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> PROBLEM
>>>>>
>>>>> I cannot dial out into the internet.
>>>>> The CD I used came without a dial-up software so I cannot use
>>>>> Ubuntu to dial out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> WHAT WAS DONE
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) I installed the modem software.
>>>>> 2) I found the Terminal and configured a connection using -
>>>>> pppconfig.
>>>>> 3) Again, on the Terminal, I entered the command - sudo adduser
>>>>> YOURNAMEHERE dip - successfully.
>>>>> 4) When I tried to enter - sudo adduser YOURNAMEHERE dialout - it
>>>>> said I did not have to do it.
>>>>> 5) I tried to use - pon comcast - to access the internet and got
>>>>> nowhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I tried another route. I downloaded Gnome ppp to a thumb drive
>>>>> but could not install it because WV Dial was not in the machine. I
>>>>> found WV Dial, but there were four versions. Do I assume the ppp
>>>>> version is the correct one or do I need all four versions. To
>>>>> install any of the four requires about 10 programs which should be
>>>>> on the machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> MY QUESTIONS
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Is there a solution that works or should I abandon this process?
>>>>> 2) Is Mepis a better program to work with because it is US based
>>>>> and for that reason has a dial-up program already installed on it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate all the help I can get.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred
>>>> [
>>>
>>
>
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