Sunday, July 31, 2011

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Linux

 

While visiting a friend at the hospital that had open wi-fi available I got on with a Mint Linux Live CD, Gnome gui, if that made a difference. Maybe they are referring to being able to save your own wi-fi info after install.
Joan in Reno

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From: Paul <pfrederick1@yahoo.com>
Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Linux
To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 31, 2011, 9:04 PM

 

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>

>

>

> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "jerold222" <jerold222@> wrote:

> >

> > Ok, I lave been trying the Linux Mint 11 from the live disc.

> > Should I be able to connect to my wireless network from live disc?

>

> Yes, but you won't like it. You have to be connected to a hard wire first.

You're absolutely right I don't like it. BOO! Good to know though.

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>
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> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "jerold222" <jerold222@> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, I lave been trying the Linux Mint 11 from the live disc.
> > Should I be able to connect to my wireless network from live disc?
>
> Yes, but you won't like it. You have to be connected to a hard wire first.

You're absolutely right I don't like it. BOO! Good to know though.

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[nslu2-linux] FFmpeg on the OptWare repo

 

Hello,

I saw you guys are the maintainers for the ffmpeg package on the OptWare repo, would you mind updating it so that it has support for libfaac?

Thanks,

-Lewis

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Saturday, July 30, 2011

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--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "jerold222" <jerold222@...> wrote:
>
> Ok, I lave been trying the Linux Mint 11 from the live disc.
> Should I be able to connect to my wireless network from live disc?

Yes, but you won't like it. You have to be connected to a hard wire first.
Go to Menu->Administration->Additional Drivers. That will allow you to
install the driver. Here is what you won't like. It is slow to load and
install. When you connect via wireless and provide credentials (usually
a passphrase), those credentials will not be saved because you are running
it from the CD. Further, every time you reboot, you have to start the
process over. I sure wouldn't want to do it very much.

> If so, how? I go into networks and wireless and it asks for things that I know nothing about.

Do it the way I said above. It will work off the network icon on the
lower right. Right click on the icon and select the wireless network
from there.

> This computer is an older desktop running xp and a lnksys wireless adapter.

It should work fine.

> I also tried the live disc in my laptop. I did get a little window that said wireless signal available but I have not found how to connect it.

Look at the network icon on the lower right.

> Thanks again,
> <snip>

Loyal

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Linux

 

On Jul 30, 2011 3:50 PM, "jerold222" <jerold222@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Ok, I lave been trying the Linux Mint 11 from the live disc.
> Should I be able to connect to my wireless network from live disc?

If you have a driver installed, it will work, but you may have to download
it and install each time you boot up from a live disk. Changes are
permanent in an install. Support is spotty for plugin cards, but works well
for most built in wireless.

> If so, how? I go into networks and wireless and it asks for things that I
know nothing about.

What was it asking for?

> This computer is an older desktop running xp and a lnksys wireless
adapter.
> I also tried the live disc in my laptop. I did get a little window that
said wireless signal available but I have not found how to connect I

Usually there is some manager that lets you click and add credentials. I'm
not familiar with specifics for Mint though.

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Ok, I lave been trying the Linux Mint 11 from the live disc.
Should I be able to connect to my wireless network from live disc?
If so, how? I go into networks and wireless and it asks for things that I know nothing about.
This computer is an older desktop running xp and a lnksys wireless adapter.
I also tried the live disc in my laptop. I did get a little window that said wireless signal available but I have not found how to connect it.
Thanks again,

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "jerold222" <jerold222@...> wrote:
>
> I have been doing some research on putting Linux on a laptop. Not a geek at all but have reinstalled xp by myself. I see there is a lot of argument about the different flavors of Linux.
>
> What I am considering is picking up an an old Thinkpad T60 with out an OS, 60 to 80 Gb, 1 to 2 Gb Ram and a DVD RW (100 to 150 US$)and loading Linux Mint. What are your thoughts?
>
> At this point I do not want to partition my good desktop PC.
>

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Thursday, July 28, 2011

[LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Linux

 

Thank you to every one for the advise. What I have decided is to experiment slowly. I ordered a live DVD ( I don't have a DVD Burner)
and try it on one of my desktop computers and see how I like it.
It just seemed like a wast of money to buy another laptop just to play with. I really love my existing Thinkpad T60 but the hard drive is a little small 60GB but I think I could still partition the drive and make it work. I have around 30GB of free space. As a storm spotter I have a program that does not work well with Wine or what ever.
Just enjoying the journey (learning experience)

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, c beck <usabecker@...> wrote:

> Hi Jerold. I don't think my original message ever made it through
> Yahoo's servers... (or maybe my own server or moderation?) But in any
> case, I thought I would try again to mention that while linux mint can
> be an excellent distro to try, what can often be more important for a
> new user with a laptop (imo) is finding hardware that is compatible
> with Linux. Not always, but every now and again there is a particular
> model of laptop that just does not have good hardware driver support
> in linux (newer toshibas, for example).
>
> My recommendation, if you are thinking of buying a computer
> specifically for installing linux on, would be to do a bit of google
> with the computer model and "linux installation" and "linux problem"
> or similar (maybe including the distro you are considering) to see if
> there are any big hickups. You can always find a few issues
> scattered, but if there are dozens of reports for a specific model in
> bug reports etc, it may be good to stay away from that PC if there is
> not an easy fix and you do not want a lot of hassle out of the box.
>
> If you have physical access to the PC before purchase, you can always
> burn a linux CD and boot it from the CD drive to get an idea of how
> well it may work with that model. (live booted CDs are
> slower/very-slow as they run entirely from memory and sometimes things
> that do not work there will work after installation and updates. but
> it can still give you an idea.)
>
> With a little effort, of course, it is usually possible to get just
> about anything working.
>
> Best of luck, and cheers,
> Chris
>

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Linux

 


> It does appear that for this reason we are going to have to wait a
> long time for some types of software to be available for Linux.

In some cases wine can help:
http://appdb.winehq.org/

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Linux

 


"As an interesting aside, while Gary Kildall had worked on CP/M for years, Tim Paterson of SCP compiled QDOS in under 6 weeks. He left SCP in 1981 and joined his friend Paul Allen at Microsoft. Later Kildall allegedly went to IBM and pointed out where his own copyright statement was still embedded in PC-DOS, but did not dare fight it out with the full force of IBM's legal division. To forestall legal action, IBM offered consumers the choice of either CP/M or MS-DOS. But at $240, six times the price of MS-DOS, CP/M was quickly headed for extinction.
Kildall's allegations of theft by SCP, and the fact that the differences between QDOS and CP/M are minute at best, can't have escaped Microsoft's attention at the time. And indeed, the fact that OS/2's inital code name was CP/DOS, when Microsoft started to collaborate on its development with IBM in 1985, suggests that it hasn't. This leads to the interesting conclusion that if this is true, then Microsoft and IBM knowingly acted as fences, and Microsoft founded a global empire on a crime."

http://www.vanwensveen.nl/rants/microsoft/IhateMS_1.html

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Robert C Wittig <wittig.robert@...> wrote:
>
> On 7/25/2011 8:22 PM, dvdpst wrote:
>
> > Oh Robert. Another clue that made me think you never ran OS/2 was MICROSOFT
> > never made it. IBM DID.
> >
> > david
> >
>
> OS/2 was a joint venture between Microsoft and IBM.
>
> Microsoft abandoned the project when their Windows project took off:
>
> http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/os2warp.html
>
> Look... I get it. Your not-so-subtle hints that I am an outright liar
> have come through loud and clear, but I just don't care.
>
> I ran OS/2 Warp v.3 and 4, and wrote some REXX code apps, and acquired
> the hat and shirt: http://www.robertwittig.net/temp/OS2/
>
> ... and moved on to *nix and C/C++.
>
> I initially joined the Yahoo 'linux' list:
>
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/LINUX/
>
> ...which is the parent Group to the Linux_NEWBIES list around 2003, and
> am currently one of the admins on that list, since April 17, 2010.
>
> I joined Linux_Newbies on April 17, 2005.
>
> If you have any questions about Linux, I might be willing to attempt
> answering them.
>
> End of discussion.
>
>
> --
> http://www.robertwittig.com/
> http://robertwittig.net/
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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Linux

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, dvdpst <dvdposton@...> wrote:
>
> Oh Robert. Another clue that made me think you never ran OS/2 was MICROSOFT
> never made it. IBM DID.

"The PC-AT was supposed to be able to do multitasking, and some IBM publicity photos even showed it connected to two dumb terminals. IBM had contracted Microsoft to create the first multitasking OS for the PC, but Bill Gates really did not want to do this for the 80286 processor. He publicly called the 80286 "brain dead" and constantly attempted to turn IBM away from creating OS/2 for the 80286 and to jump instead to the 80386 which was then under development at Intel."

http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/os2history.html

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[LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Linux

 


>
> Can that machine boot off USB? If it can then you'd be smart to learn about this:
>
> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
>
> Reading their website it sounds like UNetbootin can work even if you can't boot off USB. But I never tried it.

Another great resource:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/

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Wednesday, July 27, 2011

[LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Linux

 



--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, dvdpst <dvdposton@...> wrote:
>
> Well yes. But I was talking about financial and all that. Linux does have
> more programs that you can customize
> then windows does. And now the best part. IT'S ALL FREE.....
>
> david

Do you mean commercial? There are some commercial software package offerings for Linux but by and large the Linux user base seems to reject the notion of paying for closed source software. Go figure?

It does appear that for this reason we are going to have to wait a long time for some types of software to be available for Linux. For whatever reasons for some projects developers do expect to be financially compensated for their work.

So it isn't all free and in some places it isn't equal to what is available for commercial platforms.

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] New to Linux

 

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:11 PM, jerold222 <jerold222@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I have been doing some research on putting Linux on a laptop. Not a geek at all but have reinstalled xp by myself. I see there is a lot of argument about the different flavors of Linux.
>
> What I am considering is picking up an an old Thinkpad T60 with out an OS, 60 to 80 Gb, 1 to 2 Gb Ram and a DVD RW (100 to 150 US$)and loading Linux Mint. What are your thoughts?
>
> At this point I do not want to partition my good desktop PC.
>

Hi Jerold. I don't think my original message ever made it through
Yahoo's servers... (or maybe my own server or moderation?) But in any
case, I thought I would try again to mention that while linux mint can
be an excellent distro to try, what can often be more important for a
new user with a laptop (imo) is finding hardware that is compatible
with Linux. Not always, but every now and again there is a particular
model of laptop that just does not have good hardware driver support
in linux (newer toshibas, for example).

My recommendation, if you are thinking of buying a computer
specifically for installing linux on, would be to do a bit of google
with the computer model and "linux installation" and "linux problem"
or similar (maybe including the distro you are considering) to see if
there are any big hickups. You can always find a few issues
scattered, but if there are dozens of reports for a specific model in
bug reports etc, it may be good to stay away from that PC if there is
not an easy fix and you do not want a lot of hassle out of the box.

If you have physical access to the PC before purchase, you can always
burn a linux CD and boot it from the CD drive to get an idea of how
well it may work with that model. (live booted CDs are
slower/very-slow as they run entirely from memory and sometimes things
that do not work there will work after installation and updates. but
it can still give you an idea.)

With a little effort, of course, it is usually possible to get just
about anything working.

Best of luck, and cheers,
Chris

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Linux

I was very much in love with OS/2 when it came out. An little known fact: Do
you know that almost all of Windows
API's can be trace back to IBM. If it had not been for the help of IBM,
Microsoft would not be where they are today.
You are right about the dos emulation, it is secound to non. I was
disappointed about the HPFS option too.

david

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Martin Warren <elephant_range@yahoo.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> I took the opportunity not long ago to try out the eComstation demo
> offering of an UPDATED OS/2 (see the link that Robert gave), and was mostly
> pleased with the results on my Aspire 3089 laptop. It is indeed a modern
> operating system (again).
> Although I found the default desktop settings kind-of plain, it is the same
> solid OS that it always was, and the full commercial distro can be tweaked
> to your liking. The only thing that I didn't like was that HPFS is no
> longer a disk formatting option in the eComstation version.
> I also have an ancient AMD K6 machine with the original IBM OS/2 Warp 4 -
> fixpacks and all - on the first partition, DSL V3.3 on the second, and
> #!Crunchbang on the third of a 66G hard drive. I had to chainload grub to
> get OS/2 working with it. That much was a bit of a pain, but, it makes for
> an amusing machine. And, OS/2's native DOS emulation is second-to-none.
> IBM still is nice enough to provide continued limited support for its own
> product, so kudos to them.
>
> On Tue, 7/26/11, Robert C Wittig <wittig.robert@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> From: Robert C Wittig <wittig.robert@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Linux
>
> To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 1:41 PM
>
>
>
>
> On 7/26/2011 11:55 AM, c beck wrote:
>
> > So you two really think the OP should be putting OS/2 on his modern think
>
> > pad? Seems a bit of an odd suggestion for someone wanting to experience
>
> > linux for the first time, eh?
>
> >
>
> > cheers,
>
> > Chris
>
> Speaking only for myself, no. I stopped running OS/2 many years ago.
>
> However, in the course of the conversation I did check out:
>
> http://www.ecomstation.com/
>
>
> http://www.ecomstation.biz/cgi-bin/db2www/biz_art2.d2w/report?catname=eComStation
>
> ...which is the current state of the former OS/2, which does appear to
>
> be an up-to-date operating system, which may have some merit in today's
>
> computing environment.
>
> --
>
> http://www.robertwittig.com/
>
> http://robertwittig.net/
>
> http://robertwittig.org/
>
> .
>
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Tuesday, July 26, 2011

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I took the opportunity not long ago to try out the eComstation demo offering of an UPDATED OS/2 (see the link that Robert gave), and was mostly pleased with the results on my Aspire 3089 laptop.  It is indeed a modern operating system (again).
Although I found the default desktop settings kind-of plain, it is the same solid OS that it always was, and the full commercial distro can be tweaked to your liking.  The only thing that I didn't like was that HPFS is no longer a disk formatting option in the eComstation version.
I also have an ancient AMD K6 machine with the original IBM OS/2 Warp 4 - fixpacks and all - on the first partition, DSL V3.3 on the second, and #!Crunchbang on the third of a 66G hard drive.  I had to chainload grub to get OS/2 working with it.  That much was a bit of a pain, but, it makes for an amusing machine.  And, OS/2's native DOS emulation is second-to-none.  IBM still is nice enough to provide continued limited support for its own product, so kudos to them.

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From: Robert C Wittig <wittig.robert@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Linux
To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 1:41 PM

 

On 7/26/2011 11:55 AM, c beck wrote:

> So you two really think the OP should be putting OS/2 on his modern think

> pad? Seems a bit of an odd suggestion for someone wanting to experience

> linux for the first time, eh?

>

> cheers,

> Chris

Speaking only for myself, no. I stopped running OS/2 many years ago.

However, in the course of the conversation I did check out:

http://www.ecomstation.com/

http://www.ecomstation.biz/cgi-bin/db2www/biz_art2.d2w/report?catname=eComStation

...which is the current state of the former OS/2, which does appear to

be an up-to-date operating system, which may have some merit in today's

computing environment.

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http://robertwittig.net/

http://robertwittig.org/

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Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New to Linux

No. I think he should try Kubuntu. But OS/2 was better then Windows and will
always be so. Just like Linux.

david

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> **
>
>
> On Jul 26, 2011 10:24 AM, "dvdpst" <dvdposton@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes. Microsoft gave up on OS/2 after Windows took off. But OS/2 was an
> IBM
> > idea. And I still say that if IBM had built and marketed OS/2 madly, It
> > would had put Windows out of business. OS/2 was so much better than
> Windows.
> >
> > david
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Robert C Wittig <
> > wittig.robert@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/25/2011 8:22 PM, dvdpst wrote:
> > >
> > > > Oh Robert. Another clue that made me think you never ran OS/2 was
> > > MICROSOFT
> > > > never made it. IBM DID.
> > > >
> > > > david
> > >
>
> So you two really think the OP should be putting OS/2 on his modern think
> pad? Seems a bit of an odd suggestion for someone wanting to experience
> linux for the first time, eh?
>
> cheers,
> Chris
>
>
> >
> > >
>
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