Tuesday, June 14, 2011

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Linux mint

Hmmm. Been there and did not like it. :)

I am not always kind to Ubuntu BTW. I have been very critical of some of its
missteps and make no bones about not liking Unity. However, I give them
kudos for trying something new and different and pushing the envelope. I
think that Mint has gotten a free ride for too long and that people give it
more credit than it deserves. I have always said so. Things that are unique
to Mint are not to my liking which comes down to personal preference. Some
people like a dumbed down, lazy distro. I don't and say so. I use Kubuntu,
but many people do not like a complex and highly configurable distro. I get
that. Different strokes for different folks. Being critical of Mint or
Debian is not to the same as not liking them. As I said I have Mint
installed on one computer and LMDE on another.

Debian is another story. If it wasn't crippled and ideologically driven then
I might use it. I hate being told what to think and how to use my computer.
There are lots of people who do not mind being told what to think or how to
live their lives so Debian has a following, although it is shrinking. Until
Debian stop thinking so narrowly and its users continue to berate users for
disagreeing with their world-view then I would not want to belong to that
community. Being part of a community for me means that it must be open and
free with room for a difference of opinion. In Debian you are only free if
you agree. I call that despotism. They are the opposite of how they see
themselves. I would love Debian to succeed, but not as they currently
present themselves.

I have a hierarchy of opinion. I reserve my best venom for those who deserve
it the most. Mint is not even close. You should read what I write on
politics. ;)

Roy

Using Kubuntu 11.04, 64-bit
Location: Canada


On 13 June 2011 17:45, Paul <pfrederick1@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> After a tirade like that I've got a copy of Debian waiting for you here Roy
> :) As pure as the freshly fallen snow ...
>
> /me hides his binary Nvidia drivers behind a curtain
>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Roy <linuxcanuck@...> wrote:
> >
> > Detection of hardware is based on the kernel and Mint can take no credit
> for
> > that. It uses the same core as Ubuntu and is no better at detecting and
> > installing than Ubuntu with the exception of some decisions to use
> > proprietary rather than open source drivers. Ubuntu tries to support open
> > source projects and use free as opposed to proprietary drivers where
> > possible. However, you can easily install proprietary drivers in Ubuntu
> with
> > the additional drivers tool in the menu. Mint tries to simplify things by
> > preferring proprietary drivers in the first place. That is both good and
> > bad. It shuts the door on open source development and does not give users
> > the option of using open source, but it does make it simpler for most
> > people. I would not call it better, though. It is certainly not better
> for
> > the community in the long run. It is better for users to have open source
> > drivers that we have control over, if they work as well, than proprietary
> > drivers that are updated at the discretion of a big company when and if
> they
> > choose.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > Using Kubuntu 11.04, 64-bit
> > Location: Canada
> >
>
>
>


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