Saturday, March 10, 2012

Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: LTS isn't LT enough for me these days

 

Additionally, Ubuntu has been a pioneer as far as being first to develop
the one click over the internet install of Linux (Ubuntu , Wubi
Installer) and as a software that runs dual boot. The prototype of that
came out years ago.

Ubuntu was virtually first to develop and release the Netbook edition of
Linux - netbook optimized, and further has incorporated install
detection from desktop to netbook versions automatically now....
ARCHIVED Mar 11, 2011
Ubuntu 11.04 will be Optimized for All Platforms
http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Ubtunu_1104_will_be_Optimised_for_All_Platforms/551-114764-580.html

Numbers indeed seem wrong. Debian gets continually reported as "most
popular" with Ubuntu second place. I think it is the other way around
and specifically because of the netbook craze additionally. There are
several netbooks in our families. Debian posts the warning that
proprietary drivers (wireless connectivity) may need be purchased for
their netbook compatible releases. This has not been true for Ubuntu at
all and I use it on two netbooks also.

Ubuntu has consistently remained a rock hard stable and secure distro,
and no doubt from the experience of using it - it's gained popularity.

< < < I have to be honest lately I've been finding updates more annoying
than anything else. > > >
As far as rants about updates, you should consider the insecurity (no
FUD here) of running a computer with no changes for years. There is no
such thing. Security holes are continually found in ALL softwares that
get updated as "code hardened" against malware and hackers. Do you have
any idea of the cost of this ? If it were not necessary why do they all
spend it ? Common sense prevail.

It would be nice if all computers just were fine and complete right out
of the box until they die. It is not the nature of computers at all.
They were never designed as such neither ANY software that runs on them.

NEW....
News - Got privacy? Ubuntu Linux 12.04 will help ensure it.
http://www.itworld.com/software/257368/got-privacy-ubuntu-linux-1204-will-help-ensure-it
ITworld.com‎ - 13 hours ago
Specifically, Ubuntu Linux 12.04 "Precise Pangolin"--now in beta--will
introduce new, OS-wide privacy settings that give users a way to delete
portions of ...

TRY
Linux Security for Beginners - Table of Contents
http://www.linuxtopia.org/LinuxSecurity/
http://linuxducks.free-forums.org/linux-security-information-vf10.html

Patch/Fix/Updates - Upgrades are a continual computer system and
software function. Without this or if it was pay per - there would not
be an internet as we know it. See security news also where the industry
even predicted momentarily it would end because of cyber crime over
running it and all the industry - just over 24 months ago. It was a real
moment in time. Cloud Computing products are answering the new decade.
Don't call that just the Windows nightmare either. there has been enough
of Linux botnets and mobiles. Without Windows there would not be an
internet either as we know it - as 90 percent is windows os = money to
run it all means users in the hundreds of millions to even be feasible.

gerald philly pa usa / Home:
http://linuxducks.webs.com/
http://www.bluecollarpc.us/

On 3/10/2012 7:45 AM, Roy wrote:
> This is total FUD.
>
> Ubuntu has the financial backing of Mark Shuttleworth and it is making
> money. He is committed to the project and has the money to stay long term
> and the drive to take Ubuntu places. It is not making much but it is
> beginning to be profitable. Secondly, Ubuntu is more diversified than any
> other distribution. It does more than just the desktop. It is into mobile,
> TV, servers and the cloud. Wikipedia runs on Ubuntu. Distrowatch numbers
> are wrong. Ubuntu is strong. Figures from Wikimedia based on actual usage
> show that Ubuntu is fairly consistent and has a large lead over anybody
> else, including Mint which is a small player.
>
> LTS has been extended from three to five years for desktops. Ubuntu cut
> financial backing for one Kubuntu developer. That was their total
> commitment. Kubuntu has always had minority support from Canonical. It was
> led by KDE and has been for years. You are reading far too much into a
> simple decision to focus on Ubuntu and make Kubuntu the same as Xubuntu and
> the others.
>
> People enjoy spreading FUD about Ubuntu. I am not defending Ubuntu which I
> do not use (Kubuntu user), but am trying to keep it real instead of looking
> for things that are not there and spreading them as truths to cause fear,
> uncertainty and doubt. FUD serves no purpose. It divides where there is no
> division and weakens all of Linux and not just Ubuntu.
>
> Roy
>
> Using Kubuntu 11.10, 64-bit
> Location: Canada
>
>
> On 9 March 2012 21:57, Paul<pfrederick1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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>>
>>
>>
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>> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "G.LinuxDucks"<g.linuxducks@...>
>> wrote:
>>> <<<10.04 is the LTS version right?>>>
>>> Yes it is. The next Ubuntu LTS (Long Term Suport) is 12.04 due April, I
>>> believe. It will be supported for five years this time is reported.
>> If Ubuntu is even around 5 years from now. The history of Linux is full of
>> here today gone tomorrow distribution stories. After what I just saw happen
>> to Kubuntu I'd have to say the fate of Ubuntu as a whole is even more
>> precarious than that of some other amateur maintained distributions.
>>
>> It's a jungle, not always a kind one either. There is an excellent chance
>> I'll still be running Linux 5 years from now, what distribution though I've
>> honestly no idea. I'm souring somewhat of what I am running today in fact.
>> I think I want to get back to a simpler setup that allows me finer grained
>> control than deb based systems seem to provide easily.
>>
>> I am finding my setups are much more static today than they were in the
>> past so maybe package management isn't nearly as important for me as it
>> used to be? If this is the case it would be a paradigm shift from my
>> earlier philosophy that would greatly impact my distribution choice.
>>
>> I have to be honest lately I've been finding updates more annoying than
>> anything else. New useful software isn't even coming out at a pace that
>> makes complicated package management worthwhile for me to deal with either.
>> What I'm saying is once I've a system laid up how I like it I prefer it to
>> stay as is.
>>
>> Really, if I wanted to be forced to change my OS every 5 years I'd run
>> Windows :)
>>
>>
>>

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