Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Newcomer: Phooey - no GUI: Installled ubunto 8.04 on a 256Meg P3 machine

It is not unusual for an Ubuntu based distribution to refer to Ubuntu
rather than Debian even though Ubuntu is a spin off of Debian.

Most users not care where apt originated. They do not care about Linux and
its history or petty turf wars. They only want to use their computers
without hassles. When we split hairs over the wording of a review it is
divisive and will not help Debian or hurt Ubuntu. It only confuses users.

Although Synaptic is not included by default, apt-get is. As mentioned by
you, Synaptic is easily installable. It is the first app that I install
with any of the *buntus. I refuse to use SC and either use apt or Synaptic
for all of my installation. It isn't that SC is bad so much as it does not
provide the information that I need, such as a list of dependencies and the
source.

There are few polished distributions that are based on Debian stable. I
would know as I have tried them all. I also like the six month release
cycle and look forward to testing alphas and betas. People should feel free
to what works for them and to discuss their distros without having the
thought police come after them. We need to ease up and not get hung up on
terms and wording. It just distracts from discussion and adds little.

Roy

Using Kubuntu 11.10, 64-bit
Location: Canada

On 26 March 2012 09:42, Paul <pfrederick1@yahoo.com> wrote:

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>
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> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, Roy <linuxcanuck@...> wrote:
> >
> > You are over-thinking this statement. It does not have to mean Ubuntu
> > *developed*, but could also mean *included* with Ubuntu. That would
> include
> > apt-get, etc. I also think that you are under-estimating Software Centre
> > which handles the chores or Synaptic and gdebi as well as pushing
> content.
> > It sounds like you have an axe to grind.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > Using Kubuntu 11.10, 64-bit
> > Location: Canada
> >
> >
> > On 25 March 2012 08:09, Paul <pfrederick1@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I read that article and I am wondering what the author of it meant by
> this
> > > line, "Don't worry, all the standard Ubuntu package management tools
> are
> > > here for you to use."
> > >
> > > The only software that could even remotely be called a package
> management
> > > tool that Canonical has written that I've heard of is the Ubuntu
> Software
> > > Center, and it is more a content pushing mechanism than a utility to
> me.
>
> I think if you're hearing anything it is your own grind stone. The truth
> will set you free.
>
> From:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html
>
> "The Debian package management system has a rich history and many choices
> for the front end user program and back end archive access method to be
> used."
>
> From:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaptic_(software)
>
> "In October 2009, when the Ubuntu Software Center became available,
> Synaptic and other utilities were to be replaced by the Ubuntu Software
> Center in an unspecified future version of Ubuntu.[1] In Ubuntu 11.10
> Oneiric Ocelot, Synaptic has been removed from the default installation,
> but remains available as a package in the repository."
>
> Paul
>
>
>

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